[tennis_pr0]

So I see over 200 threads on the wastegate rattle/faulure/turbos needing to be replaced, and I am very worried. Turbos needing to be replaced is like 7k from what I read. I bought my 2007 335i used and do not have a warranty. It has 33k miles on it and is bone stock and I plan on keeping it stock.

I know there are over 200 threads on this, which really worries me. Am I definitely going to run into this problem, and if I do, will bmw cover it if I am out of warranty? Again, I am just very worried because I have a used car with no warranty and if this problem does happen it seems like a very expensive repair.

[jpsimon]

if you keep it stock you should be covered under the turbo warranty

[BAL278]

Originally Posted by jpsimon

if you keep it stock you should be covered under the turbo warranty

Yeah.. You're covered under turbo warranty until 82k (correct me if I'm wrong) miles..

You'll drive yourself crazy on these forums.. Misdiagnosing your car based on all the negative talk.. There are numerous high mileage n54's out there still running strong.. Just perform regular maintenance and you'll be fine

[tennis_pr0]

Originally Posted by jpsimon

if you keep it stock you should be covered under the turbo warranty

What is the turbo warranty? I have a 2007 with 33k miles...

[marv85]

Dude relax! you've started three threads today on the same topic. You're driving yourself crazy over "what could be"

Your car is fine, or else you would have already known. you are stil covered under warranty so if something comes up you're good to go.

if you want to tune you might increase the chance of wearing them out, however even then you might still be able to get them replaced under warranty. if not, then tough luck since it is a risk we take when we tune.

Don't forget only the people with issues post. there are tons of others that are running well, those won;t start thread saying that there cars have no rattle right? so don;t drive yourself crazy.

your car is an 07, and has no issues. If you had bad turbos you would have known already.


Enjoy your car!! focus on making in faster so you can enjoying further. IF you are super worried go for a stage 1 COBB tune and call it a day. It targets the same boost as a 335is does with the same hardware...

[marv85]

Originally Posted by tennis_pr0

What is the turbo warranty? I have a 2007 with 33k miles...

BMW covers the turbo for 8 years/82k miles because they recognize that they have issues.

The same way they cover the HPFP to 120k!

[Leekay07]

if the turbo blows due to the waste gate not opening or closing correctly (turbo keeps spinning when the engine is at idle and causes the seals to go and oil and smoke to spew out the tail pipe then your covered). When your driving down the road doing 30mph can you hear a metal on metal rattle sound coming from anywhere in the front end other than your change in your ash tray?

[tennis_pr0]

Originally Posted by marv85

Dude relax! you've started three threads today on the same topic. You're driving yourself crazy over "what could be"

Your car is fine, or else you would have already known. you are stil covered under warranty so if something comes up you're good to go.

if you want to tune you might increase the chance of wearing them out, however even then you might still be able to get them replaced under warranty. if not, then tough luck since it is a risk we take when we tune.

Don't forget only the people with issues post. there are tons of others that are running well, those won;t start thread saying that there cars have no rattle right? so don;t drive yourself crazy.

your car is an 07, and has no issues. If you had bad turbos you would have known already.


Enjoy your car!! focus on making in faster so you can enjoying further. IF you are super worried go for a stage 1 COBB tune and call it a day. It targets the same boost as a 335is does with the same hardware...

Thanks for the reply. I don't think I am going to tune my car at all, maybe down the line but I am very happy with it in stock form.

The reason I am so worried about this is because it seems like such an expensive repair if it does happen.

I thought the warrany was 8 years or 82k miles, whichever comes first. Being that my car is a 2007 that 8 years is almost up. I just don't know what I would do if this happened and I had to fix it out of pocket, I mean I would be screwed.

Like I said, I am worried because there are SO MANY threads on this, so it really has my attention. If there were just a few threads I would just assume this was a very isolated issue, but that doesn't seem to be the case...

[tennis_pr0]

Originally Posted by Leekay07

if the turbo blows due to the waste gate not opening or closing correctly (turbo keeps spinning when the engine is at idle and causes the seals to go and oil and smoke to spew out the tail pipe then your covered). When your driving down the road doing 30mph can you hear a metal on metal rattle sound coming from anywhere in the front end other than your change in your ash tray?

I plan on keeping the car 100% stock and performing all the required maintenance, so me doing something to the car to make the turbo go bad will not happen. So if the turbo went bad because of their known issue and it is their fauly they would still replace it even if I am out of that 8 year window?

[Leekay07]

Originally Posted by tennis_pr0

I plan on keeping the car 100% stock and performing all the required maintenance, so me doing something to the car to make the turbo go bad will not happen. So if the turbo went bad because of their known issue and it is their fauly they would still replace it even if I am out of that 8 year window?

Nope. Your on your own.

If you have the car another 3 years and you do not mod it then something is wrong

I never wanted to mod mine but it took me 18 months till i gave in.

[JStang]

Originally Posted by tennis_pr0

Thanks for the reply. I don't think I am going to tune my car at all, maybe down the line but I am very happy with it in stock form.

The reason I am so worried about this is because it seems like such an expensive repair if it does happen.

I thought the warrany was 8 years or 82k miles, whichever comes first. Being that my car is a 2007 that 8 years is almost up. I just don't know what I would do if this happened and I had to fix it out of pocket, I mean I would be screwed.

Like I said, I am worried because there are SO MANY threads on this, so it really has my attention. If there were just a few threads I would just assume this was a very isolated issue, but that doesn't seem to be the case...

No offense but if you can't pay to maintain this car if a problem were to arise, you shouldn't have bought it. With tht said, you have been over reacting with your 3 turbo posts. Don't sweat it!

[tennis_pr0]

Originally Posted by JStang

No offense but if you can't pay to maintain this car if a problem were to arise, you shouldn't have bought it. With tht said, you have been over reacting with your 3 turbo posts. Don't sweat it!

I can maintain my car, but this turbo thing would be like a 7k repair, who the heck can afford that

[Leekay07]

its not 7k. And if your really bothered to get a protection plan from Direct warranties or something. But to replace the turbo with aftermarket is like 1,900 or $800 to have your current ones rebuilt. Then the install can be 12-16 hrs depending on the shop and this is about 1200-1600 in labor.

[tennis_pr0]

Originally Posted by Leekay07

its not 7k. And if your really bothered to get a protection plan from Direct warranties or something. But to replace the turbo with aftermarket is like 1,900 or $800 to have your current ones rebuilt. Then the install can be 12-16 hrs depending on the shop and this is about 1200-1600 in labor.

Okay the worst case scenario would be around 3k...that is not too bad

[tennis_pr0]

Also, I am not the original owner and bough the car used as it is a 2007 with 33k miles on it, what are my options when it comes to extended warranty?

[Rob@RBTurbo]

The biggest problem with these turbos is as the wastegates wear, the actuators become well out of adjustment, and then they continue to wear even faster. The turbos will not be harmed themselves, but can begin performing poorly and begin to have an annoying rattle sound.

For those who are very serious about keeping their cars in tip top maintained condition and expanding life of all materials, I'd suggest an interval of adjusting the wastegates. But then this can be a very difficult, cumbersome, and costly task... and therefore most just wait until theres a serious problem then get new ones from the dealer under warranty. That 82k mile warranty gig is a very good one.

Rob

[tennis_pr0]

Originally Posted by Rob@RBTurbo

The biggest problem with these turbos is as the wastegates wear, the actuators become well out of adjustment, and then they continue to wear even faster. The turbos will not be harmed themselves, but can begin performing poorly and begin to have an annoying rattle sound.

For those who are very serious about keeping their cars in tip top maintained condition and expanding life of all materials, I'd suggest an interval of adjusting the wastegates. But then this can be a very difficult, cumbersome, and costly task... and therefore most just wait until theres a serious problem then get new ones from the dealer under warranty. That 82k mile warranty gig is a very good one.

Rob

The 82k mile warranty for this problem would be voided if 8 years hit first, right? Again, I have a 2007 with 33k miles on it...

[Rob@RBTurbo]

Yep, so still quite a bit of breathing room. Would not lose sleep over that at all.

Rob

Originally Posted by tennis_pr0

The 82k mile warranty for this problem would be voided if 8 years hit first, right? Again, I have a 2007 with 33k miles on it...

[tennis_pr0]

On another note, if I wanted ot buy a warranty on my car, how much would something like that run?

[Leekay07]

its probably $3500 for an 07 to cover the turbo's

[gtaccord]

I was in the same situation as you last year. I bought an 07 with 40k miles. I bought it after doing all the research and I knew what I was getting into. I figure you still probably have a 75% or better chance of having no problems. If you do have problems the warranty is in place now so nothing to worry about there either.

You have to remember that probably only 10% of the car owner base actual visit the forum. Of that number probably half of those visit just to complain about problems.

[ken1137]

Originally Posted by tennis_pr0

On another note, if I wanted ot buy a warranty on my car, how much would something like that run?

About $2 to $3K...up to 5 yrs and 100K miles. Carchex was recommended on either this forum or another BMW forum. Contact them for a quote. They also recommend the use of a BMW dealer for the repairs.