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04-29-2012, 04:35 PM | #45 |
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Yeah it is strikingly similar. This install is SUPER easy JamJay. As I said if you have 2 people it will take you 45 minutes on a lift from start to finish.
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04-29-2012, 09:20 PM | #46 |
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In before the production changes to Cali. Pulled the trigger today. I know some of these production change overs can be uneven.
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04-29-2012, 09:31 PM | #47 |
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Good deal man take some pics let me know how it goes!
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04-30-2012, 06:12 AM | #49 |
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Thanks & thanks for giving this intercooler some publicity. We're pretty new to N54 tuning in the UK still, we all want to do it but the products just aren't here in the quantities you have them over there. Despite Wagner being German, it's had no publicity in the UK/the UK side of this forum but they now have a UK vendor who I've been in touch with. I've suggested a group buy, they can only say no after all but it's worth a shot.
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04-30-2012, 06:33 AM | #50 |
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Yeah even if they don't do a GB, its a very reasonable price for the quality you're getting. Glad you found it useful!
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04-30-2012, 09:16 AM | #51 |
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Just so you all know, the Wagner FMIC, while certainly "paying homage" to the Helix IC is limited by one very significant bottleneck. Using the factory coupler restricts the charge air path. Whether the plug-n-play install is justification enough to offset the air-flow restrictions is entirely up to you as a consumer. For me, this is a deal-breaker. There is no building code for aftermarket intercoolers, but this would be a code violation in a plumbing drain- you never reduce the flow along the exit path. At the very least if you choose the Wanger you might want to think about a coupler retrofit to open up the charge air path, but then again, that would pretty much be the Helix IC wouldn't it?
I have no idea about the possibility of a group buy from Helix but it might be worth a shot. Also, Helix is a sponsor of e90post, which is more than you can say for Wagner... |
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04-30-2012, 09:36 AM | #52 |
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This conversation has been beat to death in 20 different threads. I think everyone's aware of the fact that the stock piping is restrictive and disruptive to airflow.
For those still under warranty who are modding and want the added benefits of an aftermarket FMIC with ZERO modification to install, the Wagner and HPF are the only options. That being said, my logs speak for themselves, and while the issues you're discussing are a factor in IC/plumbing design and could be debated (albeit in another thread) ad nauseum, those effects are fairly negligible here, and wouldn't really affect those who are still under warranty, who more than likely, aren't pushing their cars past 450whp anyway, where you'd start looking into streamlining the airflow to support greater power.
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04-30-2012, 11:21 AM | #54 |
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Here we go again talking about a HP or two from the connectors.
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04-30-2012, 11:23 AM | #55 |
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You have to separate yourself from the "I need every hp I can get" mentality and realize that the product itself is a long-awaited solution for those who want a stepped-core intercooler that performs on par with the rest of the aftermarket ones out there, and still retains the stock couplers. That alone is worth it to a lot of people here.
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04-30-2012, 08:23 PM | #58 | |
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05-01-2012, 06:07 AM | #61 |
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The factory couplers are also there for crash consideration.
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05-01-2012, 06:52 AM | #63 |
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Competition, the best factor in making parts more affordable.
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05-01-2012, 08:09 AM | #64 |
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This argument is like buying a Prius and then saying that the fact that it is a hybrid is a performance bottleneck. You bought it because it was a niche product, for the exact niche that it accomplishes. If there was no niche, there would be no product. And for those who want it, it performs just fine.
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05-01-2012, 02:14 PM | #65 |
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Very good intercooler !
Wagner is my next powerstep
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05-01-2012, 06:24 PM | #66 |
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So I received my wagner intercooler today and immediately installed it. Beside having a bag of sand poured on my face when I took out my stock intercooler, it went pretty smooth. @rmw04c Thanks for the tips.
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