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09-12-2012, 02:30 PM | #1 |
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New iPhone car compatibility
With the new connector just accounted on the iphone 5, how will those of us with the iPod hook up connect? Adapter, whole new cord? Thoughts?
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im more worried about how its going to fit in the door handle...at the least the new cars have actual cup holders in them to stick the phone in...love my X5 and 535 for that reason alone
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The Adapter does not support Video or iPod out. Stated on Apple's website.
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If you have LCI (at least on the coupe), you just use the regular white cable that comes with the phone...
how about those of us with ConnectedDrive/BMW Apps though? Thats another point
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09-12-2012, 03:11 PM | #9 |
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Adapters have been announced, which will be available from Apple, not BMW. $30 for a block-type adapter you'd hang on the end of a cable, and $40 for an 8-inch extension cord-style adapter. Ironically though, a full-on new style CABLE is "only" $20. So Apple is apparently acknowledging that some people have accessories with built-in 30-pin connectors/cables (e.g. an iHome) that can't just be upgraded to the new standard with a cable and are thus forced to go for an adapter -- and they're happy to gouge those helpless customers for extra profit.
As others have mentioned though, the adapters mention that video and iPod Out won't be supported, so even though theoretically it would have been possible to use an iPhone 5 through a 4/4S Media cradle by buying the extension cord-style adapter to make the connection, apparently you'll be locked out of those features -- music, charging, and control may all still work that way though if you want to keep your USB port free for another device. Evidently the reason is that the new connector is all-digital, whereas video playback and iPod Out use an analog composite signal that the 4/4S can output. That means that if BMW wants to support those functions on new iPhones, they'll either need cradles that can convert the new iPhone's HDMI output to analog (which will make already hideously expensive cradles even more so), or they'll need to update iDrive to accept an HDMI input. Since the latter option would likely require a hardware upgrade, if that's the route they go, chances are it'll only be available on new cars. Block-type adapter: http://store.apple.com/us/product/MD...30-pin-adapter Extension cord adapter: http://store.apple.com/us/product/MD...n-adapter-02-m EDIT: On thinking about the whole adapter pricing thing further, I realized that since the new connector is all-digital, and given that these adapters are designed to connect the iPhone 5 to devices that probably only accept an analog audio signal from the phone, the adapters would have to have some sort of digital-to-analog audio converter built into them, whereas a standard Lightning to USB cable wouldn't need that. I guess that might account for the increased price -- maybe. EDIT 2: Yep, confirmed. In a statement Apple gave to Engadget, the Lightning to USB adapters support analog audio: http://www.engadget.com/2012/09/14/a...tning-adapter/.
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Looks like I'll stick with my 4S till BMW figures shit out.
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This is Apple's fault, not BMW's.
Apple is stranding the large segment of their user base who have purchased an expensive arsenal of "i" gadgets, none of which will work with the new connector - adapter or not. I, personally, will probably stick with my iPhone 4 until it dies completely, and then move to a non-Apple phone. Hopefully the new (wireless) connection technologies will be available in BMWs by then. I am one for adopting new technology, but not when it forces total obsolescence with only very costly alternatives. This is similar to the digital cable/TiVo/On-Demand nonsense. Apple is one of the most guilty to being oblivious to the fact that outside companies and designers often produce better accessories and software for their products. I love Apple products, but I will be the first to admit that they are shortsighted and greedy as a company. |
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Well, it is BMW's fault as well. Adding features to a car based on another vendor's products is a terrible idea. Things like these happen sooner or later. Apple couldn't care less about BMW's problems, so why would you as BMW do that without a commitment from the other part (Apple) to keep things working?
Microsoft was (and still is) tied to obsolete components in Windows, in order to keep old applications running. Maybe BMW will learn and wisely cater to a bigger market, based on universal standards. |
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Also, $30 for an adapter is a bit steep, no? Especially when it is a nece$$ity, not an option for many people? I tend to be the schmuck lining up in the wee hours to buy the latest iPhone on release day. Not this time. Much too costly an upgrade for me. |
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Better to have enjoyed something and lost it than not have enjoyed it at all, IMHO. As for supporting standards, BMW does, which is why things like basic USB sticks work. The problem is that there aren't always standards to enable broad device-agnostic support for certain functions people want, and often there won't be because that typically means that new features take longer to arrive to market until standards are updated.
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I need the BMW "Y" adapter in my 2009, which to my understanding, controls the ipod/phone through the 30 pin connector, but the audio is analog through the aux port. I wonder if a 2 cable solution would work. I wonder how the upcoming SIRI car integration is being planned? BMW and Apple have had to be in bed on that one. |
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