Widest possible rear size on e93 335i?

Fundguy1 · 04-17-2015, 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by shadow191

I'm running 295/25/20 on the rear of my E92. Hankook V12 tires, rolled rear fender with a tiny pull (maybe 5mm), and lowered on KW V3's. My fender to ground height is 24.25". It doesn't rub except over big bumps and only on the inner liner, not on the fender lip.

I used to have 285/25 Nitto's without rolled fenders, then swapped to the 295's and rubbed like crazy until I rolled it. I also had to roll the part where the fender meets the bumper a lot since that was where the rubbing primarily was.

PSS are really wide tires so a 295 PSS is going to be wider than the 295 Hankook I have. But I still think it could work if you're fender is rolled. My camber is at -1.8 so it's not much at all.

No idea on my offset, it's a custom wheel - rim width is 10.5".

Not seeing your tire on tirerack. Skips straight to 305/25-20 from 285/30-20. Sure it's not a 19" or 305?

shadow191 · 04-17-2015, 09:20 AM

I bought mine from Discount Tire. Here's an eBay link to them for reference.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/2-NEW-295-25...-/310901758249

It's definitely 295 and definitely 20".

Fundguy1 · 04-17-2015, 09:38 AM

Doing the research on tires looks like I can get Bridgestone RE-11 in 275/30-19 or Yokohama advanced Neova AD08R in 295/30-19. There's also Michelin Pilot Super Sport but I want stickier. So if I can find a way to get the Yokos to fit I'll do that. Otherwise go with the Bridgestone.

shadow191 · 04-17-2015, 10:07 AM

I think the 295 will fit as long as you're willing to roll your fender. I still have room (not much) for a wider tire. So depending on how true to size the Yokohama's run, I think they would work. You will get pretty close to your shock though. I don't know what suspension you have, but on my V3's, they had to flatten the top of the shock body lip for clearance.

Nonecure · 04-17-2015, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Fundguy1

Yeah I have Michelin Pilot Super Sport tires in 275/30-19 rear now with no rubbing issues. Was hoping with the right offset and maybe slight camber and fender roll I could get to 295 maybe. But I haven't seen anyone doing it.

If you go with 295's that will be 20mm wider (not exact but close), so 10mm wider on each side. If you like your current fitment, you will just need 10mm more offset to have the same tire to fender distance.

Search or PM robc1976, he was running 305's. Is is also high torque, so I'm sure he has been looking for traction too.

Fundguy1 · 04-17-2015, 11:46 AM

Robc1976 just said he got 305s in there with 42 offset. Waiting to hear back if he had any camber adjustments, fender roll, rim size, rubbing issues, etc. Looks promising. Bridgestone has an RE-11 in 305/30-19.
p.s. 19x10, 40-42 offset, 305/30-19, 1.5 camber, roll the fenders, enjoy the meat.

Phill1985 · 05-30-2018, 12:48 AM

Guys i've just picked up a 2008 E92 335i M-sport and have some wheels and tyres come with the car but not fitted yet.

They are Rohana RFX5's

On the front they are 30/245r20 and on the rear 30/305r20

I understand i will need to get the fenders rolled on the rear for certain and wondering if the fronts will need rolling at all. Also wondering just how much the rear fenders will need rolling.

Invo Nitto Tyres

snedanator · 05-30-2018, 03:37 AM

Depending on what offset for the front is... a 245/30/20 will just fit in no more....but it's a good chance it will rub the fender liner lightly.....which is no big deal for many. But the rear will be impossible to fit as it's 30 series wall height is far too tall..... it's about 690 in height. A 305/25/20 is doable as it's about 660 in height..... but would probably need the rear fender rolled completely flat and also maybe pulled out a few 5mm also.... maybe some camber adjustment too. Plus the rear wheel should be at least 10.5 -11.5 in width roughly. A 305 does work but it needs a fair bit of work. A 285 or 295 is a bit easier to work with....but that extra 10mm 305...... things start to get very tight....

shadow191 · 05-30-2018, 07:57 AM

Front will work for the most part. You can't roll the front fenders on E92, they're plastic. I ran 245/30 in front and it rubbed on the driver's side fender liner enough that it wore a hole in it.

I ran 295/25 in rear and fenders were rolled completely flat and pulled about 5mm. On 11" wide wheels, it would rub on larger bumps. It's not really the top of the wheel arch it rubs on though, there will be plenty of room if you roll them. It will rub in the back where the bumper meets the quarter panel. It will also likely rub in the wheel well liner. My tires also made slight contact with my coilover shocks and we had to flatten a lip on there - there isn't much room in back.

This is on a 25 series tire. As the other poster says, I doubt the 30 series will work in back on a 20" wheel. You would pretty much rub non stop due to larger diameter and rolling the fenders wouldn't do anything.

Phill1985 · 05-30-2018, 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by shadow191

Front will work for the most part. You can't roll the front fenders on E92, they're plastic. I ran 245/30 in front and it rubbed on the driver's side fender liner enough that it wore a hole in it.

I ran 295/25 in rear and fenders were rolled completely flat and pulled about 5mm. On 11" wide wheels, it would rub on larger bumps. It's not really the top of the wheel arch it rubs on though, there will be plenty of room if you roll them. It will rub in the back where the bumper meets the quarter panel. It will also likely rub in the wheel well liner. My tires also made slight contact with my coilover shocks and we had to flatten a lip on there - there isn't much room in back.

This is on a 25 series tire. As the other poster says, I doubt the 30 series will work in back on a 20" wheel. You would pretty much rub non stop due to larger diameter and rolling the fenders wouldn't do anything.

Just gone and had another look gents. 305/25 r20.

Bloody tight yeah. As well as rolling the fenders 25.94 inches (659mm) overall diameter and 12.05 inches overall full width of tyres (306mm).

Will the fit with even a bit of work as they are magnificent rims and tyres.

Rest of suspension and brakes is stock btw

shadow191 · 05-30-2018, 09:57 AM

It will depend on wheel offset. At stock height, it would be ok as long as the offset works so you're not contacting the shock and it doesn't stick out too much. May still have to roll the fender. I was lowered on coilovers so the tire was roughly even with arch and that reduces tolerances some.

Is it possible to test fit them before purchasing so at least you can get some sort of visual confirmation? 20"s are a big wheel on an E92 and it doesn't always look right.

TeinBMW · 05-30-2018, 10:41 AM

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It can be done with a 10.5 or 11" wheel with a high offset. I'm not sure exactly how much room you have on the strut side but et40 or a little higher should work. You want it as close to the inside as possible.

I have 11" et28 with 275/30/19, fenders rolled and shaved near the bumper, -1.9 degrees camber. Here is what 11"et40 295/30/19 should look compared to that. http://www.willtheyfit.com/index.php...et2=40#content

So would this work? I may just go to 285/30-19 rear on my existing rims and be done with it. 245/35-19 front on 19x8.5

I have this setup and never had to roll my fenders or anything. been running this for 3 years.

Phill1985 · 05-30-2018, 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by shadow191

It will depend on wheel offset. At stock height, it would be ok as long as the offset works so you're not contacting the shock and it doesn't stick out too much. May still have to roll the fender. I was lowered on coilovers so the tire was roughly even with arch and that reduces tolerances some.

Is it possible to test fit them before purchasing so at least you can get some sort of visual confirmation? 20"s are a big wheel on an E92 and it doesn't always look right.

I've seen the wheels on an M3 and thought they looked great. If the vehicle was lowered i would definitely agree, 19 is the max i would go.

I think a 42mm offset is what has been recommended to me.

Just purely speaking from your experience do you think they will stick out past the fender slightly? Wheels themselves are 11"

Recon1 · 06-01-2018, 02:34 AM

Would 235/245 front + 285 back fit on the stock rims? Looking to get same size rims as factory but also get some wide and mean looking tire action for my ride. Will most likely throw some simple lowering springs on it when I do buy the rims + tires but it sits up pretty high from the factory.

04-17-2015, 09:20 AM	#46
shadow191 Lieutenant Colonel 181 Rep 1,681 Posts Drives: 2017 Volvo XC90 R-Design Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: GA iTrader: (3)	I bought mine from Discount Tire. Here's an eBay link to them for reference. http://www.ebay.com/itm/2-NEW-295-25...-/310901758249 It's definitely 295 and definitely 20".
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04-17-2015, 09:38 AM	#47
Fundguy1 Major General 2032 Rep 8,339 Posts Drives: 335 e93 Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Orlando, fl iTrader: (0)	Doing the research on tires looks like I can get Bridgestone RE-11 in 275/30-19 or Yokohama advanced Neova AD08R in 295/30-19. There's also Michelin Pilot Super Sport but I want stickier. So if I can find a way to get the Yokos to fit I'll do that. Otherwise go with the Bridgestone.
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04-17-2015, 10:07 AM	#48
shadow191 Lieutenant Colonel 181 Rep 1,681 Posts Drives: 2017 Volvo XC90 R-Design Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: GA iTrader: (3)	I think the 295 will fit as long as you're willing to roll your fender. I still have room (not much) for a wider tire. So depending on how true to size the Yokohama's run, I think they would work. You will get pretty close to your shock though. I don't know what suspension you have, but on my V3's, they had to flatten the top of the shock body lip for clearance.
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Fundguy1 Major General 2032 Rep 8,339 Posts Drives: 335 e93 Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Orlando, fl iTrader: (0)	Robc1976 just said he got 305s in there with 42 offset. Waiting to hear back if he had any camber adjustments, fender roll, rim size, rubbing issues, etc. Looks promising. Bridgestone has an RE-11 in 305/30-19. p.s. 19x10, 40-42 offset, 305/30-19, 1.5 camber, roll the fenders, enjoy the meat. Last edited by Fundguy1; 04-17-2015 at 03:12 PM..
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05-30-2018, 12:48 AM	#51
Phill1985 Registered 0 Rep 4 Posts Drives: 2008 E92 335i M-Sport Join Date: May 2018 Location: Perth Australia iTrader: (0)	Tyres and rims Guys i've just picked up a 2008 E92 335i M-sport and have some wheels and tyres come with the car but not fitted yet. They are Rohana RFX5's On the front they are 30/245r20 and on the rear 30/305r20 I understand i will need to get the fenders rolled on the rear for certain and wondering if the fronts will need rolling at all. Also wondering just how much the rear fenders will need rolling. Invo Nitto Tyres Last edited by Phill1985; 05-30-2018 at 12:48 AM.. Reason: extra info
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05-30-2018, 03:37 AM	#52
snedanator Lieutenant 97 Rep 551 Posts Drives: e93 335i le mans blue Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: Falkirk . Scotland iTrader: (0)	Depending on what offset for the front is... a 245/30/20 will just fit in no more....but it's a good chance it will rub the fender liner lightly.....which is no big deal for many. But the rear will be impossible to fit as it's 30 series wall height is far too tall..... it's about 690 in height. A 305/25/20 is doable as it's about 660 in height..... but would probably need the rear fender rolled completely flat and also maybe pulled out a few 5mm also.... maybe some camber adjustment too. Plus the rear wheel should be at least 10.5 -11.5 in width roughly. A 305 does work but it needs a fair bit of work. A 285 or 295 is a bit easier to work with....but that extra 10mm 305...... things start to get very tight....
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05-30-2018, 07:57 AM	#53
shadow191 Lieutenant Colonel 181 Rep 1,681 Posts Drives: 2017 Volvo XC90 R-Design Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: GA iTrader: (3)	Front will work for the most part. You can't roll the front fenders on E92, they're plastic. I ran 245/30 in front and it rubbed on the driver's side fender liner enough that it wore a hole in it. I ran 295/25 in rear and fenders were rolled completely flat and pulled about 5mm. On 11" wide wheels, it would rub on larger bumps. It's not really the top of the wheel arch it rubs on though, there will be plenty of room if you roll them. It will rub in the back where the bumper meets the quarter panel. It will also likely rub in the wheel well liner. My tires also made slight contact with my coilover shocks and we had to flatten a lip on there - there isn't much room in back. This is on a 25 series tire. As the other poster says, I doubt the 30 series will work in back on a 20" wheel. You would pretty much rub non stop due to larger diameter and rolling the fenders wouldn't do anything.
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shadow191 Lieutenant Colonel 181 Rep 1,681 Posts Drives: 2017 Volvo XC90 R-Design Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: GA iTrader: (3)	It will depend on wheel offset. At stock height, it would be ok as long as the offset works so you're not contacting the shock and it doesn't stick out too much. May still have to roll the fender. I was lowered on coilovers so the tire was roughly even with arch and that reduces tolerances some. Is it possible to test fit them before purchasing so at least you can get some sort of visual confirmation? 20"s are a big wheel on an E92 and it doesn't always look right.
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Recon1 Grocery Getter 3 Rep 8 Posts Drives: 2011 335i XDrive Join Date: Jun 2018 Location: Detroit, MI iTrader: (0)	Would 235/245 front + 285 back fit on the stock rims? Looking to get same size rims as factory but also get some wide and mean looking tire action for my ride. Will most likely throw some simple lowering springs on it when I do buy the rims + tires but it sits up pretty high from the factory.
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