Ecotune Downpipe

Puerto Rican 335d · 04-24-2013, 09:37 AM

Pricew is great considering that a down pipe for a 3351 runs anywhere from $599 to
$1k

http://www.google.com/#safe=active&o...w=1120&bih=637

joe_planet · 04-24-2013, 10:51 AM

Hey guys I just joined the forum because I picked up an '11 335d.
I would love to get a tune on it and limited slip, already talked to tuning company.
On my way to work yesterday I got a SES light. Car's driving fine, so I'm guessing its some sort of emissions balogney. My question is what will happen if I have such problems in the future after the tune? Will BMW still warranty my car?

FormerRotor · 04-24-2013, 11:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joe_planet

Hey guys I just joined the forum because I picked up an '11 335d.
I would love to get a tune on it and limited slip, already talked to tuning company.
On my way to work yesterday I got a SES light. Car's driving fine, so I'm guessing its some sort of emissions balogney. My question is what will happen if I have such problems in the future after the tune? Will BMW still warranty my car?

Officially speaking, a tune could void warranty on anything that it affects (engine, ECU, tranny, etc.). The more likely outcome is that you will have to remove your ECU to send back to your tuner to retune your vehicle after the each instance in which the dealer updates your software.

335dFan · 04-24-2013, 11:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joe_planet

Hey guys I just joined the forum because I picked up an '11 335d.
I would love to get a tune on it and limited slip, already talked to tuning company.
On my way to work yesterday I got a SES light. Car's driving fine, so I'm guessing its some sort of emissions balogney. My question is what will happen if I have such problems in the future after the tune? Will BMW still warranty my car?

Well, it's kinda like you would expect. If you change your diff on your own, then you won't be going back to BMW with your diff problem; you will be going back to the the company that did your LSD. If you did a tune that reflashes your ECU, then if you have a problem that BMW can somehow tie back to your ECU flash, then they won't help you. That's why some people, myself included, have chosen to use the piggyback chips like JBD or others, because you can clear the codes and take the device physically off before you go to the dealer. Even then, worst case, if they wanted to try to avoid BMW responsibility, there are some forum guys who maintain that BMW could suss it out if they really tried hard. Who knows.

dixy2k · 06-05-2013, 10:36 PM

@ ecotuneuk
I understand the max torque for the 335d tranny is around 700Nm/516 Lbft
Would there be any problem with your tune since it puts out more torque than the tranny is capable of handling?

joe_planet · 06-06-2013, 09:37 PM

Well I got their reflash and its spec is at 516 ft lb. oh and I haven't broken anything so far lol. I even went 140

Puerto Rican 335d · 06-07-2013, 09:01 AM

get an IC now

dixy2k · 06-07-2013, 09:50 AM

Axel, that will put him above the tranny specs, as in your case.

dixy2k · 06-07-2013, 09:52 AM

joe_planet
have you seen an improvement in your mpg since the reflash?

Puerto Rican 335d · 06-07-2013, 10:07 AM

Amigo dyxi2k I dont know if I am over specs but car is sure running great!! with better mileage than with previous OEM IC

dixy2k · 06-07-2013, 10:16 AM

in about 6000 mi I will be out of warranty, so that will be the time when I will probably get a reflash.
I'm trying to get an idea on which one to get (renntech or ecotune).
Being on this side of the Atlantic I haven't heard anything about ecotune till now on this forum. To me strictly, they are new.

335dFan · 06-07-2013, 10:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dixy2k

in about 6000 mi I will be out of warranty, so that will be the time when I will probably get a reflash.
I'm trying to get an idea on which one to get (renntech or ecotune).
Being on this side of the Atlantic I haven't heard anything about ecotune till now on this forum. To me strictly, they are new.

Evolve is another option. US shop is in Sterling, VA. The shop's name is Mach V Motorsports (http://www.machv.com/)

joe_planet · 06-07-2013, 10:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dixy2k

joe_planet
have you seen an improvement in your mpg since the reflash?

Not really, i think its marginal maybe 0~2 mpg, but this tune is more for power than fuel economy

dixy2k · 06-07-2013, 10:40 AM

335dfan
On their website there is nothing about 335d, only 135i/335i
Do they use their own proprietary software or someone else's?

dixy2k · 06-07-2013, 10:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joe_planet

Not really, i think its marginal maybe 0~2 mpg, but this tune is more for power than fuel economy

That's probably 6% improvement, which is in line with all the claims out there from a lot of tuners.

joe_planet · 06-07-2013, 01:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dixy2k

That's probably 6% improvement, which is in line with all the claims out there from a lot of tuners.

i was getting around 30~34 mpg depending on driving style and i think it did go up a bit, but right now car is at the dealer getting the stupid scr fixed...

dixy2k · 06-07-2013, 09:13 PM

I looked at ecotune's wesite and I couldn't find anything about US 335d tuning.
However, there is some info on the EU version for the 286 and 306 hp.

286hp....580Nm/427LbFt

306hp....600Nm/442Lbft

In each case we can see a constant number obtained by the tune: 54hp and 100Nm/74LbFt

Extrapolating from those figures I would assume the US version would be good for 319hp and 676Nm/499LbFt (in case they can tune the US version).
Not bad. Torque figures look good. Probably with a larger i/c one can still have a little more power within the max specs for the tranny.

joe_planet · 06-07-2013, 10:52 PM

Well you can get renntech and pay 1200 bucks, or get ecotune and pay 800. In the end it will be very similar that you probably won't be able to tell the difference. Save that 400 for the inter cooler or a night on the town lol.

Btw this is where you can get the info on the ecotune http://www.redlinespeedworx.com/
http://www.redlinespeedworx.com/specials/ecotune/

The ecotune is 360 hp 700 nm torque or 516 lb ft

dixy2k · 06-08-2013, 12:17 AM

the 360hp 700/516 is for the 306hp version, which we don't have.

joe_planet · 06-08-2013, 07:33 AM

Well I'll just have it put on the dyno then, only way to know. I won't get the torque either... Bummer

LAMPSguy · 06-15-2013, 09:28 PM

This is my 1st post so I can unlock the other features. Just bought a 2011 335d, Deep Sea Blue Metallic, sport package, and pretty much every other option. Have a wagner IC, tried to install today but could not for the life of me get it that last 1/4". It just felt like something was in the way that I could not find. Hopefully someone else who has installed this can give me some tips.

Planning (and already spoken to Lenny) a Renntech flash and looking into downpipes, etc.

dixy2k · 06-15-2013, 09:50 PM

Congratulation
I have a different type of i/c so I cannot help you with Wagner. May Puerto_Rican can give you some helpful hints.

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04-24-2013, 10:51 AM	#134
joe_planet Captain 41 Rep 800 Posts Drives: 2011 X5d Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: DFW iTrader: (1)	Hey guys I just joined the forum because I picked up an '11 335d. I would love to get a tune on it and limited slip, already talked to tuning company. On my way to work yesterday I got a SES light. Car's driving fine, so I'm guessing its some sort of emissions balogney. My question is what will happen if I have such problems in the future after the tune? Will BMW still warranty my car?
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06-05-2013, 10:36 PM	#137
dixy2k Major 88 Rep 1,152 Posts Drives: 335d Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: CA iTrader: (0)	@ ecotuneuk I understand the max torque for the 335d tranny is around 700Nm/516 Lbft Would there be any problem with your tune since it puts out more torque than the tranny is capable of handling?
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06-06-2013, 09:37 PM	#138
joe_planet Captain 41 Rep 800 Posts Drives: 2011 X5d Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: DFW iTrader: (1)	Well I got their reflash and its spec is at 516 ft lb. oh and I haven't broken anything so far lol. I even went 140
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06-07-2013, 09:01 AM	#139
Puerto Rican 335d Brigadier General 229 Rep 3,489 Posts Drives: Montego Blue 335d Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Puerto Rico(Dominican Republic 03/2017) iTrader: (0)	get an IC now __________________ RENNtech Flash(Lenny Wu)/WAGNER IC Enkei Rajin 18"/Execuhitch Hitch/Koni FSD Soft Ride Bike Rack/Brava Synthetic Motor Oil(Made in Puerto Rico)/Meth(in the works)/CBU done w Andrew EGR Race Pipe (whoa! what an animal it is now)
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06-07-2013, 09:50 AM	#140
dixy2k Major 88 Rep 1,152 Posts Drives: 335d Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: CA iTrader: (0)	Axel, that will put him above the tranny specs, as in your case.
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06-07-2013, 09:52 AM	#141
dixy2k Major 88 Rep 1,152 Posts Drives: 335d Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: CA iTrader: (0)	joe_planet have you seen an improvement in your mpg since the reflash?
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06-07-2013, 10:07 AM	#142
Puerto Rican 335d Brigadier General 229 Rep 3,489 Posts Drives: Montego Blue 335d Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Puerto Rico(Dominican Republic 03/2017) iTrader: (0)	Amigo dyxi2k I dont know if I am over specs but car is sure running great!! with better mileage than with previous OEM IC __________________ RENNtech Flash(Lenny Wu)/WAGNER IC Enkei Rajin 18"/Execuhitch Hitch/Koni FSD Soft Ride Bike Rack/Brava Synthetic Motor Oil(Made in Puerto Rico)/Meth(in the works)/CBU done w Andrew EGR Race Pipe (whoa! what an animal it is now)
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06-07-2013, 10:16 AM	#143
dixy2k Major 88 Rep 1,152 Posts Drives: 335d Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: CA iTrader: (0)	in about 6000 mi I will be out of warranty, so that will be the time when I will probably get a reflash. I'm trying to get an idea on which one to get (renntech or ecotune). Being on this side of the Atlantic I haven't heard anything about ecotune till now on this forum. To me strictly, they are new.
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06-07-2013, 10:40 AM	#146
dixy2k Major 88 Rep 1,152 Posts Drives: 335d Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: CA iTrader: (0)	335dfan On their website there is nothing about 335d, only 135i/335i Do they use their own proprietary software or someone else's?
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06-07-2013, 09:13 PM	#149
dixy2k Major 88 Rep 1,152 Posts Drives: 335d Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: CA iTrader: (0)	I looked at ecotune's wesite and I couldn't find anything about US 335d tuning. However, there is some info on the EU version for the 286 and 306 hp. 286hp....580Nm/427LbFt 306hp....600Nm/442Lbft In each case we can see a constant number obtained by the tune: 54hp and 100Nm/74LbFt Extrapolating from those figures I would assume the US version would be good for 319hp and 676Nm/499LbFt (in case they can tune the US version). Not bad. Torque figures look good. Probably with a larger i/c one can still have a little more power within the max specs for the tranny.
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06-07-2013, 10:52 PM	#150
joe_planet Captain 41 Rep 800 Posts Drives: 2011 X5d Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: DFW iTrader: (1)	Well you can get renntech and pay 1200 bucks, or get ecotune and pay 800. In the end it will be very similar that you probably won't be able to tell the difference. Save that 400 for the inter cooler or a night on the town lol. Btw this is where you can get the info on the ecotune http://www.redlinespeedworx.com/ http://www.redlinespeedworx.com/specials/ecotune/ The ecotune is 360 hp 700 nm torque or 516 lb ft Last edited by joe_planet; 06-07-2013 at 10:58 PM..
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06-08-2013, 12:17 AM	#151
dixy2k Major 88 Rep 1,152 Posts Drives: 335d Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: CA iTrader: (0)	the 360hp 700/516 is for the 306hp version, which we don't have.
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06-08-2013, 07:33 AM	#152
joe_planet Captain 41 Rep 800 Posts Drives: 2011 X5d Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: DFW iTrader: (1)	Well I'll just have it put on the dyno then, only way to know. I won't get the torque either... Bummer
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06-15-2013, 09:28 PM	#153
LAMPSguy New Member 0 Rep 21 Posts Drives: 2011 335d Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Jacksonville, FL iTrader: (0)	New to forum This is my 1st post so I can unlock the other features. Just bought a 2011 335d, Deep Sea Blue Metallic, sport package, and pretty much every other option. Have a wagner IC, tried to install today but could not for the life of me get it that last 1/4". It just felt like something was in the way that I could not find. Hopefully someone else who has installed this can give me some tips. Planning (and already spoken to Lenny) a Renntech flash and looking into downpipes, etc. __________________ 2011 335d Gone Wagner FMIC - Installed
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06-15-2013, 09:50 PM	#154
dixy2k Major 88 Rep 1,152 Posts Drives: 335d Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: CA iTrader: (0)	Congratulation I have a different type of i/c so I cannot help you with Wagner. May Puerto_Rican can give you some helpful hints.
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