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02-08-2012, 08:06 PM | #23 | |
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We are the test car for 95% of what HPB puts out but these do not fit my car as I have an E92. We were part of the testing for all of what HPB is popular for these days like their LED Kit and exterior turn signal options. |
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02-08-2012, 08:43 PM | #25 | |
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The 10watt cree AE are made for E90 Pre Lci models which I believe is h7. My car is a 09 E92 and the angel eye is an h8. I simply cant test a bulb that doesnt fit my model.... so of course they dont fit. The bulbs I have tested fit my car and we do this out of good faith for the community, for free. Please dont spread erroneous rumors. |
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02-09-2012, 01:24 AM | #27 |
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okay, hope you guys we're holding your breath all the way from the weekend. Finally got some time to take some pictures and do some writing
As mentioned before, the angel eye cover on the headlight assembly does not fit over these bulbs. Here's why: First off, picture below is the assembly of these (10W) lights. As you can see, there is an extra enclosure behind the bulb that houses what I'm assuming is circuitry. When we line up the cup that covers the angel eye bulb next to the bulb and this enclosure, we can see that it is too short to accommodate the two of them in the same space. The back of the bulb heat sink is bored out to a diameter where the circuit module could fit inside, but it's still too long to fit inside the cup. Also, the idea of stuffing the circuits and wires in there makes me really nervous; the lights get quite warm quickly, and stuffing all of that inside can cause heat buildup as well as damage the circuits and pretty thin wires. The cylinder enclosure is also too long to fit sideways inside the cup (even at its widest point, the open end). Possible Workarounds: At this point, I have put together some ideas of how to overcome this issue. However, I have not tested any of these, and need to put up this disclaimer language: I cannot be held responsible for what you decide to do to your car The only way I see to replace the cover on the AE area would be to relocate the circuit module to sit outside of the cup, and cut a notch for the wire to pass through to the outside. This cut would have to extend past the lip, since the gasket sits sub-flush with the rest of the body of the headlight housing. (see red box+cross hatching region indicating cutout) The wires here do offer some flexibility here; if you're really short on length, it might be OK to open up the connector and extend it with another piece. (Not sure how advisable this is; anyone with more wiring experience care to speak on this?) It's important to note that the cylinder enclosure is not sealed. The hole where the wires pass through are large, and would easily let in dust/moisture. Thus, I can't say I am 100% confident about this "workaround". ------------------------------------ So, all in all, a pretty big hurdle to overcome. IMHO, it's very risky driving around without the cover on, especially if you live in a very dusty/humid/rainy environment. (kindof a no-brainer) Running with the ugly stock halogens would be safer. I've talked to HPB, and I have some 6W bulbs on their way; they do not have this extra appendage hooked up to the bulb and should fit the cover on without any issue. I will see if I can get some comparison (10W vs 6W) photos up when they arrive. Let me know if there are any questions about my explanations; it's always a bit hard to interpret things when the physical objects aren't in your hands ---------- Update 2/9/2012 HPB has informed me that they are currently in the redesign phase on the LED controller so it can fit inside the housing. I look forward to seeing and trying out the new versions Last edited by unyi3lding; 02-09-2012 at 05:59 PM.. |
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02-09-2012, 12:38 PM | #29 | |
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As you know your vehicle comes standard with many rubber grommets to protect from debris entering and allow for wiring to pass through. Right now that seems like a feasible solution for those that want to stay with that kit. |
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02-09-2012, 08:45 PM | #30 |
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And this is a prime example of a vendor being awesome. A problem was brought to their attention that they could not have foreseen, and now they're working to fix it, while keeping the retailer-customer channel open to alleviate concerns. Another A+ for HPB in my book
It's things like this that keep me coming back to them, and not to side-track this thread too far, but I'm just about to place my order for the 10W h8 angel eyes, and I'll do another one of my OCD reviews once I get them : |
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02-10-2012, 11:22 AM | #31 |
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They have discontinued the 10watts and I dint understand how no one can see that the problem began when the item was not test fitted... AT ALL. Would you sell someone a pen with no ink and say that it writes? They are resolving the issue by replacing my 10watts and refunding the difference in price ad also being understanding of the whole matter, but it still doesn't change the problem at hand and that I've now removed and reinstalled the item several times now.
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02-10-2012, 11:41 AM | #32 |
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Looks like they sell a model for the E92. Has anyone tried these? I'm considering giving them a shot, I'll have to see what their return policy is.
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02-10-2012, 02:27 PM | #33 |
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I'm about to pull the trigger on those. And HPB has a very liberal return policy, note that a previous poster got his 10W's exchanged for the 6W's.
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02-10-2012, 03:13 PM | #34 | |
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02-10-2012, 03:28 PM | #35 |
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There is some confusion here that I think needs to be cleared up. I know Top Gear Solutions does not sell these lights they are simply in here to help people as he just said. Also I think people are confusing HPB for being a manufacturer of these lights. They did not manufacturer these lights which means the manufacturer is at fault for not mentioning to HPB any obstacle a customer would run into. These same lights are sold elsewhere and honestly I would fear anyone that has purchased from a different vendor as I know their customer service can't compete with HPB's.
It seems like a simple fix of just cutting a slot and adding a grommet. Honestly, I've ran into much larger obstacles in my modding career so this is really nothing to cry about. Especially since HPB appears to be willing to remedy the situation and not run away like most vendors would. I think most people should be thankful of stellar customer service, understanding, and overall fairness. They do fit, they just needed a custom tweak. I ordered an exhaust for my other car about a year ago and the fitment was so poor I had to have a shop cut and weld a section to get it fit. The place i bought it from said "yea that happens sometimes". No refund, no exchange, nothing. So trust me this hiccup is nothing. After that I also learned to research products more thoroughly before purchasing. Anyone that is going to buy something fresh to the market should understand in this industry there may be a obstacle to overcome even with extensive testing prior. Just like when new cars roll out the factory and they think they have everything nailed.... like our HPFP? lol Last edited by E3r2E9r; 02-10-2012 at 03:38 PM.. |
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EDIT: well, to clarify, I got one in, but I have pretty big hands so I only got one side in last night, i might need to remove the airbox on the drivers side to get that side in. But let me tell you, for $80, I'm really impressed. They're shockingly even I must say! And so is my dad (as an M6 driver) who wouldn't be happy for something that didn't do the job right. He wants me to order a set for his car, as a stop-gap between halogen AE's and OSS lights. Last edited by rollinstone157; 02-17-2012 at 08:38 AM.. |
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02-17-2012, 09:17 AM | #41 | |
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Just ordered the 10W LEDs to see if they're any brighter so it will be an interesting comparison. HPB says they'll fit and work error free but they did say up front that I could return them if I they don't work. So we'll see!
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02-18-2012, 03:26 PM | #44 | |
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Just another update for everyone, I've completed the exchange with HPB and currently running with the 6W LEDs. They look decent (excellent for the price), but comparing the two you can notice a difference in light intensity. Difficult to capture with a camera, but here's my attempt HDR: and without HDR, (same setup; 10W on right, 6W on left) So there you have it.. Huge difference? Not really. But I, for one, look forward to upgrading to the 10W v2.0 once the kinks have been worked out |
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