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E92 335i - What exhaust system?
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02-10-2012, 02:06 AM | #1 |
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E92 335i - What exhaust system?
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Winter will be coming to a close soon so getting my wish list together for upgrading the coupe. As far as breathing is concerned I've already decided on the AFE INTAKE STAGE 2 and AR design Catted DP's but can't find much in the way of options for a DP back system. Plenty available in the States but I hate getting shafted for import duty. Was thinking the cheapest option is to take a road trip to Turrif and have them make a custom system for me but cheap is not always good so wondered if anyone on here has had a proven system installed and their thoughts on it. Supplier info would be helpful too. Looking at a budget of around £1k for the system. Cheers G |
02-10-2012, 02:39 AM | #3 |
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OP, by 'DP back' do you mean you want to ditch the secondary CATs?
Performance wise, you're better ditching the primary CATs (getting DeCAT DPs) but keeping the secondaries for MOT pass. The get backboxes for looks / sound. |
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02-10-2012, 02:44 AM | #4 |
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I would recommend you get the DP's installed first.
It is reported this give you a nice change in sound and especially on E92's the catless DP's with standard system give a very nice noise. Not sure of performance gains with back box but imagine minimal. |
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I love the noise my car makes so really all I want to achieve in that respect is a little more volume. Thanks to all so far |
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02-10-2012, 03:24 AM | #6 |
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OP, agree with others, just fitting DPs really makes the car sound different, you might want to do that first. (DEcat DPs are louder than catted obviously)
Re the CATs, the primaries are the main restriction by miles as they are smaller and right up by the turbo. They are there to heat up quickly and pass the cold start 2 minute emissions type-test (cold start emissions not tested at MOT). The secondaries are much larger and more high flowing. They will pass an MOT on their own as long as they are warm (as proven on here by Phil200tdi). Plenty on here running way over 400bhp with secondary CATs on. |
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02-10-2012, 04:37 AM | #8 |
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Oh and for an interim fix, have a search for Golf tee mod if you have not done this already.
I have the fuse pulled on mine, and it is a nice easy mod and 100% reversible |
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02-10-2012, 09:42 AM | #12 |
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I love the sound of my Bastuck quads.
Having a chat to my Brother in law who runs an MOT test centre and is a tester himself. The new concerns I raised some time ago regarding catalyser precence checks are very real. Soon the test centres will be looking to see your 335i has FOUR cats fitted. If you have any missing, you WILL fail the mot, regardless of emissions. MOT test centres are quite heavily audited, and the penalties for frigging a test for a customer make it unlikely any will want to do this. The data the MOT test centres collect is fed into an online system where it is statistically analysed. Specific trends are identified, unusual amounts of money making 'headlamp alignment' failures are flagged for example. Likewise if a station flags well below average results for emissions tests, bells ring. Never realised they did this. But decats might be an expensive hassle in the very near future. Be warned. Steve
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Bugger!! Oh well best plan to get the catted DP's, price up a custom center section with race cats and throw a Back Box on. Probably around £1100 worth aft of the DP's.
Think I'll forget it for now until I've got a Diff installed |
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I read somewhere that CATS need to meet the spec of OEM, therefore I'd be worried even with race CATS fitted. I'm likely to keep running mine catless until November (MOT time) and then reassess the options - Revert to stock and sell or keep beyond 100k. I think the risk of being checked at the roadside is minimal. |
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Really? Screw it!!! Think I'll put on what I want anyway and just spend the morning the day before putting the old system on for MOT time. It's only once a year after all
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Just to reiterate the point, stick with the secondary cats. I've tried the options and find the car drones a bit more when accelerating from low revs without the secondary cats in place. I felt like there might have been a slight increase in performance but it might have been a placebo effect. These new MOT rules are a real PITA for modified cars.
I've got a Borla touring cat back which sounds pretty nice IMO, a bit more throatier than the standard but not overly loud. Ps there might be a BMW performance exhaust on ebay |
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MOT (or roadside) equipment is not capable of measuring levels accurately much lower than the ones they test for now, thats why the test limits have been roughly the same for 20 years. The OEM factory levels these days are way under the current mot limits. No car newish car can ever be tested to factory limits outside of a laboratory. As steve says the new checks are visual inspections for the removal or alteration of emissions equipment. My father in law runs an MOT garage, he says as far as they're concerned the changes amount to nothing, and knowing of my mods, he says he would never fail it as its obviously not a dodgy car and will still pass the (unchanged) exhaust test, a view taken by most MOTers I hope! Last edited by doughboy; 02-10-2012 at 03:42 PM.. |
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But what about those who have to rely upon non-family MOT testers? Or the unsuspecting used car buyer? He needs to be careful. The test system is smarter than one might imagine. A 335i with two cats missing will be substantially over the 'norm' emissions albeit below the 'pass' threshold. Only takes one cross check and he's in bother. Which is why I'm surprised if any mOT testers will take that chance in todays climate. We are lucky
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02-10-2012, 05:14 PM | #20 |
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lol spotted perf exhaust on fleabay
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