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      06-27-2012, 07:45 PM   #23
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Congrats on the upgrade. I just love hearing the spooling of the snail its so sexy lol. cant wait to read your full extent review.
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FBIS, what is the source of the 20 whp difference from the original 654 whp dyno? Less boost or just dyno variance?

crazy power regardless
Kenneth, my baseline is 262 rwhp and I think Shiv had a baseline of 287 rwhp on his dyno. I suspect this is just dyno to dyno difference.
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I suspect the 3 back to back runs with no cool down didn't help Usually, we see the car make more power on the 2nd run. And then even more on the 3rd run. This is because the oil heats up/thins out. But only if there is a good cool down between runs. In this case, the car never had the opportunity to pick up power between the rapid fire runs.

We also dyno'd on a cooler day which probably explains much of the 2% difference in power.
I needed to prove the repeatability of the kit. I know it isn't ideal, but I really wanted to show people what to expect if they get the kit. The results are the same run after run after run.
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Kenneth, my baseline is 262 rwhp and I think Shiv had a baseline of 287 rwhp on his dyno. I suspect this is just dyno to dyno difference.
FWIW, the 287 baseline run was for a 6MT car with dci and axle back. Closest i had to stock in my dyno database

But if you dyno'd stock at 262whp, the dynojet you are using could very well be a low reader.

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Congrats FBIS and Vishnu

Nice to see when a vendor walks their talk and gets real world results.

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Holy shit that sounds good....
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Why does the exhaust note sound so different??
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Congrats FBIS and Vishnu

Nice to see when a vendor walks their talk and gets real world results.

Ilma, thank you! As always, this review will be transparent and people will be able to draw conclusions based on solid data.
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Holy shit that sounds good....
deemarr 335i, that is how I feel everytime I drive the car!
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Why does the exhaust note sound so different??
I think it has a lot to do with the restriction from the tiny turbos is gone. I does sound more throaty now than it did before, but oddly it is more quiet in normal rev ranges. It is a very calm and tame car at low rpms.
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Why does the exhaust note sound so different??
Because of the manifold design and the fact that all 6 cyl merge into one collector. Instead of having two banks of 3 cylinders merge together (one for each turbo). So basically, you are hearing a proper inline-6 instead of two inline-3s. The lack of exhaust pressure (from the big turbo) also contributes to the rich drone-free exhaust note.
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@FBIS - i was thinking of going to a single exhaust solution (custom muffler shop) and then put a 328i bumper on it. It will drop some weight and I'm seeing if i can make the overall solution flow better and quieter.

I think the single turbo + single exhaust + 328 bumper = maximum sleeper
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I think it has a lot to do with the restriction from the tiny turbos is gone. I does sound more throaty now than it did before, but oddly it is more quiet in normal rev ranges. It is a very calm and tame car at low rpms.
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Because of the manifold design and the fact that all 6 cyl merge into one collector. Instead of having two banks of 3 cylinders merge together (one for each turbo). So basically, you are hearing a proper inline-6 instead of two inline-3s. The lack of exhaust pressure (from the big turbo) also contributes to the rich drone-free exhaust note.
Oh, ok. Well it sounds MUCH better than the stock turbos.
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@FBIS - i was thinking of going to a single exhaust solution (custom muffler shop) and then put a 328i bumper on it. It will drop some weight and I'm seeing if i can make the overall solution flow better and quieter.

I think the single turbo + single exhaust + 328 bumper = maximum sleeper
I personally like the look of duals. I have an Arkym CF diffuser on the back, so it looks great in there!
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I'm jelly! That N54 sounds amazing
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I'm jelly! That N54 sounds amazing
It is a lot different than the sound of the twins.
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Love the sound of that 62mm spooling. Dude, please make us an in car video. Action. Like tomorrow or something. Do it simple, have someone hold an iPhone in the passenger lol, that will suffice for now. Congrats on this, car must be awesome.
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Excellent! Good job guys.
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FBIS -Thanks for the data and dyno video. Do you have a oil cooler upgrade? If you can recall, how were your oil temps during the back-to-back dyno pulls? Do you think a upgraded oil cooler is a necessity with this kit?

One last thing. What is your meth mix?

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My car was an early production and had no oil cooler at all temps were fine. Im installing an ER sport oil cooler and have a BMW performance 2nd oil cooler. That's where my car is right now.


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FBIS -Thanks for the data and dyno video. Do you have a oil cooler upgrade? If you can recall, how were your oil temps during the back-to-back dyno pulls? Do you think a upgraded oil cooler is a necessity with this kit?

One last thing. What is your meth mix?
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