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Catless downpipes, Failing inspection,MHD stage 2 v8 ONLY, no jb4, Still getting CEL
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04-23-2018, 09:05 AM | #1 |
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Catless downpipes, Failing inspection,MHD stage 2 v8 ONLY, no jb4, Still getting CEL
I searched and couldn’t find this exact scenario so here it goes;
Vehicle: 2009 335i n54 Mods: VRSF Catless Downpipes to; GENUINE BMW Performance Exhaust VRSF charge-pipe HKS blowoff valve Burger Motorsport dual cone intake CX Racing front mount intercooler RB PCV valve MHD Stage 2 tune NGK 5992 1 step colder spark plugs Delphi coils Still having CEL come on for BANK1 and BANK2 o2 sensors. Now I have a VRSF DP fix and went to install it the other day to sort this issue and am I correct in saying you have to have a jb4 to use their DP fix? I need to pass inspection in NY and even at a “friendly” shop they said they can’t do anything about it, if it’s showing incomplete it won’t pass. If my after cat o2 sensors were actually bad would it show up like it is or would mhd mask it? Need help as my temp inspection is almost up. This is what it always pops up with after I cycle the system (drive 50+ Miles) |
04-23-2018, 09:08 AM | #2 |
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And this is what it shows directly after me clearing the codes. As stated it always goes back to the
-low pressure fuel (mhd said its normal?) -o2 sensor after cat bank 1 signal -o2 sensor after cat bank 2 signal -occasional 30ff |
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04-24-2018, 05:34 PM | #4 |
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Why do you have a cel with mhd stage 2 is what I'm curious about
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04-25-2018, 06:46 AM | #6 |
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The dp fix should work without a jb4. If it's not an adjustable dp fix you may need another one unfortunately. I believe if it fools the ECU by sending a certain amount of voltage.
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04-25-2018, 08:34 AM | #7 | |
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I believe INCOMPLETE is not necessarily a bad thing, you just need to run the cycle. This is from my own experience with an MHD backend flash, JB4, and catless DPs on my N54.
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04-25-2018, 12:54 PM | #8 | |
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OP you shouldn't be getting a check engine light with/ without the DP fix if your running MHD which means the issue is somewhere else. When did you start getting a check engine light? My guess is you could have screwed up the install of the DP fix and you need to check that. That is where I would start. |
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04-26-2018, 09:50 AM | #9 |
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Change your LPFP sensor.
Then check back. I'm guessing the sensors bad which in turn is messing with your fuel trims which is then making your o2s go wild. Make sure you clear adapations after you change, then clear codes too. Run the cycle again after that with the dp fix. Last edited by Nexus313; 04-26-2018 at 09:56 AM.. |
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04-27-2018, 04:28 AM | #11 | |
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MHD will suppress the CEL and put the cat codes as shadow codes as long as you have the "stock downpipes" box unchecked, but it won't make the catalyst show anything other than INCOMPLETE. The fact that you have more than just codes for the cats and get an actual CEL really makes it sound like you have an actual problem, and judging from all the o2 codes (especially the one saying "ageing") I'd say it's something there. Those definitely aren't normal with MHD, and 30FF is always a pretty good sign that something isn't right. DP fix isn't gonna fix that.
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04-27-2018, 08:49 AM | #12 |
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Do you have catted down pipes checked under the MHD options? If so this could cause this issue, just had a friend with the same thing and un checking that box fixed it
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04-27-2018, 12:59 PM | #14 |
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Yeah change the low pressure sensor, that code will go away. I believe there is a different fuel pump shadow code that you are thinking of that is normal.
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04-27-2018, 03:13 PM | #16 |
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i'm on the same boat. FBO
so i have mhd on stage 0 right now for emission testing with the dp fix and i cannot get catalyst ready it shows incomplete after 50 miles and few cycles of driving. I figure my issue is MHD is auto deleting codes so now i checked the box that says catted/stock dp. so MHD should not delete anything and allow the DP fix do it's job. i emailed MHD to see their suggestion. OP i don't think you should be getting those codes only the normal catless codes that everyone gets. |
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04-28-2018, 07:31 AM | #17 |
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Stage zero by my understanding is effectively stock maps no code suppression, and you need 100-150 miles of driving for that to complete, 50 is insufficient. If I misunderstood that I'm sure someone will correct me.
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Do you guys think that replacing the 2 o2 sensors after the cats is a good idea? Or do you think it's something else just throwing them off? |
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Lol 2 o2 sensors being changed is way more expensive than replacing the lpfp sensor. Start with that first. It's very unlikely that they both went bad at once. |
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Second the stock catted dp option is indeed supposed to be checked even if I have catless? You're saying once I have the dp fix in, and the LPFP sensor fixed, i check the stock catted dp option and cycle the car right? Thanks everyone for the help!! |
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04-28-2018, 03:46 PM | #22 |
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I've attached the installation instructions, which have a section for installation both with and without JB4. I've also attached the emissions drive cycle procedure. This can take anywhere from 15 to 99999 miles to complete based on your driving routine, so having it on hand, and maybe taking a dedicated drive to achieve it, may help.
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