|
|
|
|
|
|
BMW Garage | BMW Meets | Register | Today's Posts | Search |
|
BMW 3-Series (E90 E92) Forum
>
335i or 335xi
|
|
10-12-2010, 02:40 PM | #45 |
Colonel
135
Rep 2,517
Posts
Drives: '11 335xi e92 M-Pak
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: GTA/KW, Canada
|
Depends on what you want and where you live.
I got AWD since I live in Canada and since I snowboard. Going to the mountains, AWD with winter tires will be "easy" drive. I know some ppl with the "i" with winter tires and they still have hard time driving in the mountains. But thats only when going snowboarding, you have to think of everyday use.
__________________
|
Appreciate
0
|
10-12-2010, 06:13 PM | #47 |
Banned
483
Rep 10,309
Posts
Drives: A///MERICAN!!!
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: A///MERICA!!!
|
Here are some figures pertaining to weight from BMW
335i E90 MT; AT Weight: 3593 lbs; 3605 lbs Distribution: 50.9/49.1%; 51.1/48.9% E92 MT; AT Weight: 3560 lbs; 3582 lbs Distribution: 51.2/48.9%; 51.4/48.6% 335i xDrive E90 MT; AT Weight: 3814 lbs; 3824 lbs Distribution: 53.8/46.2%; 53.9/46.1% E92 MT; AT Weight: 3582 lbs*; 3759 lbs Distribution: 52.2/47.8%; 53.1/46.9% *This seems out of line, but is what is listed on BMWUSA.com and unnecessary in the following %change calculations Aside from the steering feel, which to me was obvious, these differences are not great, as for... ...Sedans there is ~6.5% deviation in weight and ~5.9/6.1% deviation in distribution ...Coupes there is ~5.6% deviation in weight and ~3.7/4.3% deviation in distribution These figures are not great, but exist and are quantifiable. The E90 335i 6MT has the best weight distribution, and the E92 335i 6MT is the lightest. These are the two one would expect to handle best. However, handling is very a subjective matter, and the increased grip of xDrive very well could translate into quicker acceleration and higher cornering speeds, at the expense of braking. This is just an attempt to introduce some cited objectivity into the discussion. I purposely chose numbers that are unable to be influenced by external factors such as gas, driver, tires, conditions, and other nuances. These numbers also support my subjective observation that I preferred the handling characteristics of an E90 335i over those of the E90 335i xDrive (ZSP) and E92 335i xDrive (non ZSP), both of which I've gotten as loaner vehicles. I am not saying xDrive sucks and that no one should buy it. Just that I posted my opinion, it was ridiculed and supposedly supported by objective evidence which turned out to be unverifiable. |
Appreciate
0
|
10-12-2010, 06:29 PM | #48 | |
Lieutenant
20
Rep 402
Posts |
Quote:
|
|
Appreciate
0
|
10-12-2010, 06:54 PM | #49 | |
Banned
483
Rep 10,309
Posts
Drives: A///MERICAN!!!
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: A///MERICA!!!
|
Quote:
Handling is not simply a case of more grip or higher speed is better. A faster lap time does not mean a car handles better. It means it sustains a higher average speed around that particular track. Handling is very much about how a car does something rather than how quickly it does something. I chose weight figures because they are hard figures and are commonly accepted indicators to the desirability of a particular cars handling. |
|
Appreciate
0
|
10-12-2010, 07:21 PM | #50 |
Major General
920
Rep 5,538
Posts |
All I can say is that tire choice is MUCH more crucial then Xdrive...in rain, snow, and dry. I would also take LSD vs xdrive any day, and I would take Quattro vs Xdrive also any day
|
Appreciate
0
|
10-12-2010, 07:42 PM | #51 |
Lieutenant
51
Rep 551
Posts |
I agree tires are crucial.....so I guess you have 4 separate sets of tires that you change each morning depending on the temperature or if it is dry or wet
|
Appreciate
0
|
10-12-2010, 08:03 PM | #52 | |
Banned
483
Rep 10,309
Posts
Drives: A///MERICAN!!!
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: A///MERICA!!!
|
Quote:
Summer performance for (depending on location) mid-March through mid-November Winter/snow for mid-November through mid-March Would having a dedicated set for warm dry, warm wet, cold dry, and cold wet offer better traction? Yes, but most consider this to be overkill. While the line is less defined in the i/xi debate, there are many who think xDrive is overkill for what they want their car to do, and the perceived negatives outweigh the aggregate increase in grip. It's simple cost-benefit and it's subjective to what one prefers in the overall driving experience. |
|
Appreciate
0
|
10-12-2010, 08:09 PM | #53 |
Major General
920
Rep 5,538
Posts |
|
Appreciate
0
|
10-12-2010, 08:19 PM | #55 |
Banned
483
Rep 10,309
Posts
Drives: A///MERICAN!!!
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: A///MERICA!!!
|
I wasn't sure...I want to say 38* but maybe that's the optimal temperature to chill champagne to? No wait...that's 45*....I'll change mine over as soon as temperatures sustain below 40. Maybe Dunlop has optimal operating temperature specifications I'll ask my mechanic...
|
Appreciate
0
|
10-12-2010, 09:00 PM | #56 |
Female driving enthusiast :P
76
Rep 2,308
Posts
Drives: Bimmer
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Ontario, Canada
|
If you want the sports suspension, you need to get the RWD version. You can't get it with x-drive, even with the M-Sport package.
__________________
2013 M3 coupe (Azurite Black, Black, Piano Black)
+ miata nut (2 miatas) + Mk6 GTI 5-door hatch (our mini-SUV ) |
Appreciate
0
|
10-12-2010, 09:48 PM | #57 | |
Colonel
135
Rep 2,517
Posts
Drives: '11 335xi e92 M-Pak
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: GTA/KW, Canada
|
Quote:
OP just remember that the xDrive was not designed for performance it was more designed for safety.
__________________
|
|
Appreciate
0
|
10-13-2010, 02:06 AM | #58 |
Private
13
Rep 70
Posts |
yeah i want the sports the suspension. but idk if i want the coupe or the sedan i got my mind set on the 335i over the xi. but are there any other differences besides the 2 doors? i also want the m-sport package also.
Last edited by ptd23; 10-13-2010 at 02:22 AM.. |
Appreciate
0
|
10-13-2010, 09:11 AM | #59 |
Colonel
547
Rep 2,590
Posts |
|
Appreciate
0
|
10-13-2010, 09:31 AM | #60 | |
Second Lieutenant
20
Rep 266
Posts |
Quote:
I wanted just the i, but 2011 e92 i does not have the MSport option up here in Canada, only for the xi. However, driving in the rain was great with the xDrive, so no regrets. |
|
Appreciate
0
|
10-13-2010, 10:16 AM | #61 |
Captain
45
Rep 698
Posts |
|
Appreciate
0
|
10-13-2010, 10:17 AM | #63 | |
Banned
483
Rep 10,309
Posts
Drives: A///MERICAN!!!
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: A///MERICA!!!
|
Quote:
|
|
Appreciate
0
|
10-13-2010, 10:29 AM | #65 | |
Second Lieutenant
12
Rep 279
Posts
Drives: 2021 X3 M40i
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Brooklyn, NY
|
Quote:
|
|
Appreciate
0
|
10-13-2010, 10:59 AM | #66 |
Alaskan Umlaut
0
Rep 3
Posts |
Live in Alaska so the XI is an absolute must. If I thought I stood a chance with RWD and a good set of snow tires (even if they were studded), I'd be driving an M3.
|
Appreciate
0
|
Bookmarks |
|
|