Xenon Headlights...

Coddy · 01-03-2012, 11:52 AM

Hi everyone,
I've got a BMW e90 320d m sport 2007 with halogen lights which I think crap in the dark especially on country lanes.Is it a straight forward swap if I was to buy a set of oem xenon headlights seondhAnd?
Cheers lee

AlanQS · 01-03-2012, 01:59 PM

If you do a search on xenons you will find a lot of useful information. Xenons are supposed to have headlight washers and be auto levelling, both things which are missing from your car. As far as I know it is not an easy or inexpensive change but, IIRC, some people posted alternatives which seemed to work.

Business edition · 01-03-2012, 02:24 PM

Like Alan said your needs to have Xenons headlight washers and meant to have auto levelling thing. But am sure it's a straight fit. Or why don't you just go for a hid kit like I have and the other guys have. Easy to fit. It's the same bulb that xenon headlights use but fitting is different for the xenon headlight it's a ds3 or something like that and yours would be a H7

doughboy · 01-03-2012, 02:47 PM

But these are just the type of illegal HID conversions that will FAIL the new MOTs from Jan 1st 2012 (yesterday).

The law says HID lights MUST be self levelling and have washers, so as not to blind all the other poor bastards when you is ridin' like bad boyz init.

Coddy · 01-03-2012, 03:31 PM

Brighter legal bulbs then?

Business edition · 01-03-2012, 04:01 PM

It's up to you what you want to do mate, you can't really get any bulbs that are really bright mate it won't be much different to the normal bulb that you got. If you get the hids you can put them in and when it comes to do your MOT then you can take them out and once your car has pass the test put put them back in or if you know the dude very well he could let you go

The new MOT rules suck, your not allowed to anything to your car really can't even remap it

vivekk · 01-03-2012, 04:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Business edition

..If you get the hids you can put them in and when it comes to do your MOT then you can take them out and once your car has pass the test put put them back in or if you know the dude very well he could let you go

..

That's not really good advice, is it?

Viv

willhollin · 01-03-2012, 04:14 PM

Just don't bother getting an MOT!

vivekk · 01-03-2012, 04:16 PM

In fact, why even bother getting it taxed or insured?

Viv

willhollin · 01-03-2012, 04:17 PM

Exactly Viv!

vivekk · 01-03-2012, 04:19 PM

Why you can't just strap on a couple of lighthouses on the front of your car & pass your MOT, if you were sufficiently bothered to actually take it, I just don't know.

Have you considered the 'lighthouse' upgrade, Business Edition?

Viv

zltm089 · 01-03-2012, 04:20 PM

its true tho...new MOT rules are a pain the a$$....

zltm089 · 01-03-2012, 04:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vivekk

Why you can't just strap on a couple of lighthouses on the front of your car & pass your MOT, if you were sufficiently bothered to actually take it, I just don't know.

Have you considered the 'lighthouse' upgrade, Business Edition?

Viv

whats a lighthouse upgrade Viv?

willhollin · 01-03-2012, 04:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vivekk

Why you can't just strap on a couple of lighthouses on the front of your car & pass your MOT, if you were sufficiently bothered to actually take it, I just don't know.

Have you considered the 'lighthouse' upgrade, Business Edition?

Viv

What about one of these Viv? Would it still pass an MOT?

Business edition · 01-03-2012, 04:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vivekk

Why you can't just strap on a couple of lighthouses on the front of your car & pass your MOT, if you were sufficiently bothered to actually take it, I just don't know.

Have you considered the 'lighthouse' upgrade, Business Edition?

Viv

Am just saying mate that's one thing he could do, he doesn't have to do it.

Or the other thing is when you buy your next car just look for ones with xenon headlights

I would of love to have xenon headlights on my car.

You could get the xenon headlights put the washers and the autoleveling. Don't know how hard it is or if any one has done it

But one thing I don't get is why you need the washers.

What advise would you have for him viv

No I haven't mate to be honest with you, have you got house lights on yours viv

TMP · 01-03-2012, 04:25 PM

Just get +30 or +50 bulbs, they do help and are legal.

IIRC Auto levelling uses sensors at the front and back of car, hence difficult (read fecking expensive) to retrofit

vivekk · 01-03-2012, 04:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zltm089

whats a lighthouse upgrade Viv?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Business edition

..What advise would you have for him viv

No I haven't mate to be honest with you, have you got house lights on yours viv

Luckily, I've got BMW's factory-fitted xenons on my car. Legally upgrading from halogens to HIDs is likely to be more expensive, unfortunately, but it is possible. As Tim suggests, using a higher-spec halogen bulb is probably the best option for Lee.

A 'lighthouse' upgrade will give you an unbelievable bright throw of light for a second or two, followed by absolute darkness, which is pretty much what you'll get if you don't install a legal self-levelling set of HIDs with washers.
The whole point of having washers on HIDs is to reduce the risk of dirt dazzling oncoming traffic. Dirt on a HID setup will produce a far brighter 'glow' than on a halogen one.

I thought you'd have known about these things, Business Edition?

Viv

Business edition · 01-03-2012, 04:50 PM

I knew it was to clean the headlight lens.

Business edition · 01-03-2012, 04:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coddy

Brighter legal bulbs then?

Here are some good pair of bulbs you could have brighter then normal ones you have check the link out

And here they are on eBay if you want to buy them and your only aloud 55w bulbs, 100w your not aloud.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/RW1277-H7-...item4cfce1aec2

Hope this helps

ctch22 · 01-03-2012, 06:56 PM

lol

xenon · 01-04-2012, 01:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Business edition

I knew it was to clean the headlight lens.

Hang on, let me get this straight: The headlamp washer system is to clean the headlamp lens? i.e. the headlamp washer system washes the headlights? I never would have deduced that from the name.

D2S bulbs re-based in an H7 halogen fitment, fitted to the halogen "Mr Kipling" pie-tin headlight reflectors look shit, dazzle other road-users and are rightly illegal. Don't do it.

doughboy · 01-04-2012, 04:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Business edition

The new MOT rules suck, your not allowed to anything to your car really can't even remap it

Quote:

Originally Posted by zltm089

its true tho...new MOT rules are a pain the a$$....

Not really, the new rules are to help catch out really bad or bodge / crap mods, i.e. HID kits, cheap plug in tuning boxes, ill-sized wheels and tyres, or obvious interference with emissions systems etc...

Anyone making considered, proven or quality modifications to their cars will be just fine if it passes emissons and has no adverse effects on the safety of the vehicle.

REMAPS are not banned specifically, only if they make the car fail the emissions tests, no MOT station is able to check for REMAPs, the new checks are only by visual inspection in anycase.

Do you think someone spending £10000 on an 600BHP+ Gpower M3 supercharger conversion would want it to fail an MOT?

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Business edition OBD Port Disabled 77 Rep 617 Posts Drives: 2010 BMW E90 M Sport Business Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Birmingham iTrader: (1)	Like Alan said your needs to have Xenons headlight washers and meant to have auto levelling thing. But am sure it's a straight fit. Or why don't you just go for a hid kit like I have and the other guys have. Easy to fit. It's the same bulb that xenon headlights use but fitting is different for the xenon headlight it's a ds3 or something like that and yours would be a H7 __________________ E90 LCI M SPORT BUSINESS EDITION - STAY SAFE & HAPPY MOTORING
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Business edition OBD Port Disabled 77 Rep 617 Posts Drives: 2010 BMW E90 M Sport Business Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Birmingham iTrader: (1)	It's up to you what you want to do mate, you can't really get any bulbs that are really bright mate it won't be much different to the normal bulb that you got. If you get the hids you can put them in and when it comes to do your MOT then you can take them out and once your car has pass the test put put them back in or if you know the dude very well he could let you go The new MOT rules suck, your not allowed to anything to your car really can't even remap it __________________ E90 LCI M SPORT BUSINESS EDITION - STAY SAFE & HAPPY MOTORING
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