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      07-23-2013, 09:40 AM   #1
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Tesla...wow!

Anyone test drive a Model S yet? The stores to order them are starting to pop up around me and I went in to check them out. Beautiful car. 300mile range and 0-60 in 4.2 seconds for a family 4 door sedan.

All the gadgets and gizmos are awesome as well. If anyone gets a chance you should check one out. I am seriously considering one for the wife.
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I see several of these every day now and two people I know have bought them. They also have an SUV coming out which will be a real game changer. It's the ultimate soccer mom transporter.
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It's 95k for the higher voltage, Model S.. I would love one but way too expensive..
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It's 95k for the higher voltage, Model S.. I would love one but way too expensive..
There are two voltage model S. the higher one fully loaded is 81K. Then they make a performance one that has things like auto adjust suspension and some CF goodies. That is 95k. It has a different electronic thingy that makes it a few tenths quicker that is it. I am looking at the Model S with the bigger battery and no performance.
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They also have an SUV coming out which will be a real game changer. It's the ultimate soccer mom transporter.
Yep, very likely our X1 replacement, especially if the Supercharger network is nationwide by the time it comes out.
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What does a nationwide supercharger network have to do with a soccer mom using it to get around town?
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      07-23-2013, 10:21 AM   #7
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Yep, very likely our X1 replacement, especially if the Supercharger network is nationwide by the time it comes out.
By Xmas this year you should be able to drive across the us for free using all the supercharger stations. They also talk about a battery swap program if you can't wait the 20 minutes to fully charge. 90 second battery swap. They think it will cost around $40 for this.
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There are two voltage model S. the higher one fully loaded is 81K. Then they make a performance one that has things like auto adjust suspension and some CF goodies. That is 95k. It has a different electronic thingy that makes it a few tenths quicker that is it. I am looking at the Model S with the bigger battery and no performance.
Wrong, Model S performance is the only model that does 0-60 in 4.2 seconds and that is over 90k.

http://www.teslamotors.com/models/options
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What does a nationwide supercharger network have to do with a soccer mom using it to get around town?
Nothing, aside from making it a viable IC replacement. We typically take four or five 200-400 mile trips a year, and not having to take my car or rent a car for those makes it much more viable as a replacement for our X1. For the other 300 some days of the year that my wife drives 6 miles a day, the Supercharger network won't really come into play though.

Without the Supercharger network, or a range extender like the i3 will have as an option, I wouldn't consider an electric car at all.
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Wrong, Model S performance is the only model that does 0-60 in 4.2 seconds and that is over 90k.

http://www.teslamotors.com/models/options
I am not wrong. That is what I said. The performance is 4.2 and a few tenths faster than the regular Model S with he bigger battery. I think that one is 4.7.
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It has a different electronic thingy that makes it a few tenths quicker...
Is that the technical term? lol
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By Xmas this year you should be able to drive across the us for free using all the supercharger stations. They also talk about a battery swap program if you can't wait the 20 minutes to fully charge. 90 second battery swap. They think it will cost around $40 for this.
Just to clear up some details - It's 30min for a 200 mile charge, not a full charge. A swap will be in the $60-80 range and you will be required to come back and retreive your original battery, otherwise you'll be charged a preset fee.
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I am not wrong. That is what I said. The performance is 4.2 and a few tenths faster than the regular Model S with he bigger battery. I think that one is 4.7.
Wrong again. You said few tenths second faster in your previous post.

85W: 5.4 seconds
85W Performance: 4.2 seconds

That is not a few tenths second faster and definitely not 4.7 second..
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Wrong again. You said few tenths second faster in your previous post.

85W: 5.4 seconds
85W Performance: 4.2 seconds

That is not a few tenths second faster and definitely not 4.7 second..
Whatever. You got me douche.
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Just to clear up some details - It's 30min for a 200 mile charge, not a full charge. A swap will be in the $60-80 range and you will be required to come back and retreive your original battery, otherwise you'll be charged a preset fee.
That is completely different than what the sales guy said. That sucks and is not as good as I thought. If you were going from point a to point b and had no intent to come back then that would suck.
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Whatever. You got me douche.
Snortle. Just to confuse the issue, it appears that even the base 60KwH car can do a 5.1s 0-60.
http://www.autoweek.com/article/2013...REEN/130709972
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Is that the technical term? lol
Inverter was the word he called it. Said it is the only difference between the regular model s and the performance but I am sure inspired will tell me that is wrong as well. I need to introduce him to the sales guy I met.

At the end of the day my post was to share MY experience with how nice I felt this car was. Not turn it into a loserfest of who can search the web best and be a douche.

The car is a nice car and I was impressed. Period.

Admin you can delete this thread if you want.
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Snortle. Just to confuse the issue, it appears that even the base 60KwH car can do a 5.1s 0-60.
http://www.autoweek.com/article/2013...REEN/130709972
Seems like Tesla needs to hire a new drag racer.

Model S performance 1/4 mile bone stock: 12.3
On their website: 12.6 seconds

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You kids are aguing about 0-60 times. LOL. What are you, 14?
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You kids are aguing about 0-60 times. LOL. What are you, 14?
Damn right they are, 0-60 time is the single most important factor when it comes to selecting a car.
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Drove a Model S performance on a high speed ring with some nice banked turns going roughly 90, car is composed and very planted. The acceleration is INSANE for a car that weighs 4700lbs. Torque delivery is immediate and flat, almost gives the sensation of a roller coaster. You just press pedal and go, there is no gearbox so no noodling with downshifting etc. The low center of gravity really helps along with air suspension. Unfortunately, I was driving it after someone had done a full autopsy, so the steering was terrible after they put it back together. For a first attempt at an in-house developed car, Tesla did an incredible job. There are some strange omissions (need to turn on lights with MMI for example), especially regarding interior, my Audi interior is nicer IMO. Car exterior is gorgeous in person, especially with OEM 21" wheels. The infotainment is really impressive, pretty much functionally similar to an ipad, though it has some oddities.

The range anxiety is real even if it's rated for 300 miles. Driving it hard will net you around 1/3 the range prescribed, on average, I saw people get about 3/5 the estimated range. They were taking it up and down to speed, some driving more aggressively than others. It charges at around 18 mi/hr from 240V, so if you ever were driving and ran low on charge...forced to stop somewhere with 120V, all I can say is LOL.

In the end this isn't meant for people who don't have multiple cars. Their business plan isn't sustainable (ZE credits will become less valuable once other OEMs catch up), and in their heart of hearts they hope people won't be putting tons of miles on these. There's a lot of hype here, so it remains to be seen how they deal with recalls, lemon law's etc...owners are still in serious honey moon stage in a segment that has no competition.
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All I know is the stock has jumped from $20 in a few months to $150+. One of our customers(ups) i see every afternoon and we chat stocks. He owns a 911 and a Prius. He has a very long commute and thinking about getting a telsa but needs the 300 mile range model. However, that's not enough for him when on Fri, heads to the A/C-- shore from work and back up to Pennsylvania....I mess with him(he is also x-Ferrari owner) egg him on to pick up a 2-3 yr old Ferrari and say F****it/ Plus bonus for me, i can park the brown truck for a few minutes and play with floppy paddles in a private lot
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