[iBeech]

[MEGA]

Apologies to the OP for responding though by the way, didn't mean to take things off topic.. I'll leave it now.

Good luck sorting it

[Pandamonia]

Originally Posted by MEGA

lol. I took over the rent at our home address because my mum was made redundant and was about to lose the house. So in fact, if not for my salary my mum would be in a council flat or homeless. Somewhat different to your jibe, but I'm happy to explain the situation. Your ignorance isn't your fault after all. You never asked.

It seems I struck a nerve quoting salary though. I don't think London tends to get a 100% payrise compared to somewhere 2 hours out. If it did, why would anyone not just commute down. I take it you didn't do as well as I at my age though? I ask only because you seem slightly bitter.

By the way, I only asked you why the about change. You then decided to try and get one up on me by responding in an aggressive personal way. I wondered why you'd gone from saying the 320 was best in the range to saying that it is prone to a high failure rate and etc.

My atitude to other people's opinions is only strong when the other people are talking complete bullshit.


Love and kisses.
Mega.

I was doing far better than you at your age and not living anywhere near the capital. But well done you your obviously proud of yourself.

but the fact is that im not talking bullshit and peoples opinions are their own and deserve to be taken as that "opinion"

I have had a E92 for 4 years now which makes me fairly up to date on things to do with this car. Same with the 6 pot engines of the 535, Not because i spend all day reading the interwebz but because me or a family member owns or has owned them for considerable time.

In the early days of this car i spent a shit load of time dealing with Puma or what ever bmw call it, diagnosing the turbo fault i had which was plaguing early E92's

So for you to come out and claim a turbo kit is a load of bullshit just makes you sound ignorant.

[iBeech]

Guys, whats your opinion on non genuine turbos? i've been given a quote from another garage for 1300-1400quid for a non genuine turbo.

Thoughts?

[Pandamonia]

If i was you id be looking into written off cars with Turbos in perfect nick, there must be millions of dead E90's in scrap yards from careless company car owners and women drivers

Might be a bargain out there.

[iBeech]

Originally Posted by Pandamonia

If i was you id be looking into written off cars with Turbos in perfect nick, there must be millions of dead E90's in scrap yards from careless company car owners and women drivers

Might be a bargain out there.

only problem is i have no idea what i'm looking for- need the specific turbo, and i dont know which one it is for mine.

[Pandamonia]

Originally Posted by iBeech

only problem is i have no idea what i'm looking for- need the specific turbo, and i dont know which one it is for mine.

Call up the people who quoted you the £1800 and ask them or phone bmw? they should know.

Or even better phone some brakers and give them your model and year and see if they have the same year and model. Those guys normally know their stuff.

Time to put some effort in mate if you want to save some money.

[iBeech]

am quite happy to put the effort in- but i'm a complete n00b- i need my car for commuting to work, so may not be enough time for me to shop around for wreked cars- i'm only around monday-friday from 6:45pm- and on the weekends, so its impossible for me to pick parts up and such... May have to submit- but i'll give a call round at lunch and see what i can do

[mrwindymiller]

Originally Posted by Pandamonia

Time to put some effort in mate if you want to save some money.

I can see you are attempting to help but your patronising manor especially towards the OP is beginning to grate.

If you cannot genuinely assist, perhaps you should give the forum readers a rest and restrain yourself from adding to this thread.

[MEGA]

Originally Posted by mrwindymiller

I can see you are attempting to help but your patronising manor especially towards the OP is beginning to grate.

If you cannot genuinely assist, perhaps you should give the forum readers a rest and restrain yourself from adding to this thread.

+1

[Hotcoupe]

Originally Posted by Pandamonia

Why do you need a whole new turbo?

When my E92 turbo went they replaced the Turbo but the problem was so prolific at the time BMW came out with a "Turbo Kit" which is fitted instead of replacing the whole turbo.

Id look into this.

Originally Posted by Pandamonia

If i was you id be looking into written off cars with Turbos in perfect nick, there must be millions of dead E90's in scrap yards from careless company car owners and women drivers

Might be a bargain out there.

Originally Posted by Pandamonia

Call up the people who quoted you the £1800 and ask them or phone bmw? they should know.

Or even better phone some brakers and give them your model and year and see if they have the same year and model. Those guys normally know their stuff.

Time to put some effort in mate if you want to save some money.

How about you tell the Guy the part number for the 'Turbo kit' you mentioned in your post above, perhaps the OP could look into it, if such a kit exists?

Apparently you seem to be some kind of expert on all things BMW related, so now's you chance to show just how much you know on a subject you researched at great length when your turbo imploded.

Every post from you seems very negative towards BMW's, why the fuck did you buy one?

OP, try Quarry motors:
http://www.quarrymotors.co.uk/

LK:
http://www.bmspares.co.uk/

Fab Direct
http://www.fabdirect.com/

Worth a call, all three

[LexS]

Pandamonia, we now fully understand what you want the OP to do, no need to say anymore thankyou.

OP, a non-genuine turbo may be a cheaper solution, but you really do get what you pay for with precession made components so don't expect the turbo to last as long. But if your only keeping the car for a few years it may be a less painful solution short term.

There's no reason a turbo kit won't exist, but unless its something simple like a replacement actuator the labour cost, unless subsidised, wouldn't be worth the time or effort over a recon turbo which is personally what I would do.

Not having had the problem myself I can't say anything more than speak to a couple of different turbo specialists and ask how much for a recon turbo unit, find a garage with a sensible labour rate to fit the recon unit, then return you dead unit to the turbo specialist to get back some money (they would usually put a few hundred ££ surcharge on the recon unit).

Come to think my old place of work Andrew Page Ltd could source turbo's from BTN and Turbo Active, give your nearest branch a call and explain you want a turbo

[G82Dude]

Originally Posted by Pandamonia

It is the best but Turbos are Turbos, All diesels come with them and they are all prone to blowing up. Thanks to the EU all engines will be getting them.

6 Cyl Diesel turbos on the E92 were the ones causing all the issues when the model was first out, 4 Cyl were having issues but not as bad.

Not sure if BMW just use rubbish turbos, but having had a pair of Audi TFSI based engines, one a series 2 S3, which is pretty highly strung, never had an issue. Not sure of the turbo manufacturer, though. Also, having had a series 2 Escort RS Turbo too, it never missed a beat on the turbo (Garrett T3), but then I always let it idle for a minute before turning off!

I did notice that the Audis do have auxillary water pumps though that pump water through the turbo bearings for five-ish minutes after the engine was turned off. Not sure if BMW adopt the same strategy with any of their turbocharged cars?

A turbo should last as long as the engine (under normal use - remaps/fiddling excluded)!

[G82Dude]

Originally Posted by iBeech

Guys, whats your opinion on non genuine turbos? i've been given a quote from another garage for 1300-1400quid for a non genuine turbo.

Thoughts?

Oooo, non-gen - nah!

[I6Touring]

Originally Posted by uke92dude

A turbo should last as long as the engine (under normal use - remaps/fiddling excluded)!

Makes you wonder how many cars with turbos failing now were running some sort of chip during an earlier ownership or lease period, especially with the piggyback types being so easily removed.

[m1bjr]

Try Essex Turbos for the part, and any indy garage can fit it, its routine work.

ET are well regarded in the MLR Lancer forums etc and can fix you up with anything you need.
The Garret and Mitsubishi on the 320d are very common.

Good luck, its not a biggie...

Some good intel:
http://www.essexturbos.com/sites/def...xTurbo-BMW.pdf

[m1bjr]

[QUOTE=Pandamonia;9852911]If i was you id be looking into written off cars with Turbos in perfect nick, there must be millions of dead E90's in scrap yards from careless company car owners and women drivers [QUOTE]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/How_to_...fluence_People

[arrankhan]

My turbo went on my 2007 320d without start/stop this weekend. It is the mitsubishi one as they all are before 2008. Got a remanufactured turbo with 12 months guarantee and next day delivery for £600 all in from http://www.turboactive.com/ . Have to send the old one back as an exchange within two weeks otherwise your warranty on your new one is void. I rang about 20 places today and this was the best deal i could find so luckily ive done all the leg work for you and saved you £500 . However your garage seems to be well on the expensive side for a non dealer!

[JaySTee]

Wow another two 320d Turbo's, I'm on borrowed time

If you go down the route of getting a new/recon turbo yourself and getting a non BMW garage to fit make sure the garage that does the work also replaces the breather filter as per the artical m1bjr linked to, even if it is the newer type that does not have the foam filter as I believe even these can get blocked/cause problems.

[kaishang]

Eh, what is wrong with Pandamonia's idea of phoning up an auto wrecker with OPs make and year of car and asking if they have a turbo? Seems like SOP to me if you want to save money.

[mowflow]

Plenty of breaker type part sourcing websites where you can put in your make, model, year of car and what part you require. The request is sent to all the breakers registered with the site who will then get in touch if they have the part. I used one of these sites several years ago for an exhaust part on a golf GTi and the phone was literally ringing off the hook. It takes no effort and very little time to do.

In terms of the non genuine turbo. Could it really be that bad? By that I mean could it be worse than the OEM Mitsubishi ones that are failing all over the place?

[arrankhan]

Originally Posted by mowflow

Plenty of breaker type part sourcing websites where you can put in your make, model, year of car and what part you require. The request is sent to all the breakers registered with the site who will then get in touch if they have the part. I used one of these sites several years ago for an exhaust part on a golf GTi and the phone was literally ringing off the hook. It takes no effort and very little time to do.

In terms of the non genuine turbo. Could it really be that bad? By that I mean could it be worse than the OEM Mitsubishi ones that are failing all over the place?

Tried ringing up breakers, none had any in stock and they all said DO NOT put a used one in. For £600 your getting a recon tested one with 12 months warranty, what's the most your gonna save if you get a used one, £200??