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06-04-2011, 12:10 AM | #331 | |
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My gear is: BMW HU Technic's harnesses (I think he sells them here too) MS-8 2 Tru Technology 4 channels amps 1 Clarion 1500w Monoblock 4 Jennert Woofers (150w) 2 Jehnert 4's mids (30w) 2 kicker 4's mids (rear) (30w) 2 tweeters 1 JL 12W7 That's it. Let me see, if I can understand what you just wrote Channels 1/2: front tweeters and mids Channels 3/4: all four woofers Channel 5: Center speaker Channel 6: Subwoofer via Y-cable Channels 7/8: rear deck mids did I get it? I think he was using 1 channel per speaker in order to use the MS-8 crossover capabilities, but, he ran out of channels "Now use one 4-channel for front mid/tweet and rear mid/tweet, one for the front midbasses, and use the ms-8 internal power for the center and rear channels. I assume your 4/ tweeter have crossovers and that your center and rear can run off 16w" So he should use one amp for the front & rear 4' mids + tweeters? And the second amp just for the woofers? Run the center channel and what else from the MS-8? Noobie question: Can I run an active crossover with this set up?, or do I have to use the Jehnert crossover? I really appreciate this, I feel like finally I've come to the right place (I know it sounds corny, but after 3 weeks with no car )... Last edited by kdarcia007; 06-04-2011 at 12:21 AM.. |
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06-04-2011, 01:13 AM | #332 |
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If you want to go active, you would need to ditch the rears. If you use the Jehnert xovers you can keep them.
The MS-8 just went on sale a few months ago. We all had to figure it out sometime. I hate when pros get paid to be ignorant. |
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06-04-2011, 03:30 AM | #333 | |
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VP, I really appreciate this, I can ditch the rears, no problem. Would you please tell me how the connections would go on the MS-8 for an active crossover. Taking a wild guess, I would say: Front mid tweet 2 or 4??? Front midbass 2 or 4??? Center (1) Sub (1 with a RCA Y splitter) |
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06-04-2011, 05:18 AM | #335 |
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NO, don't ditch the rears! You will lose an important feature of L7!
CH1&2: Front mids/tweeters using Jehnert x-overs CH3&4: Jehnerts midbasses in front doors CH5: Center (buy an L7 or HiFi (dependling on your system) tweeter from BMW and add it, trust me!) CH6&7: Connect OEM speakers in rear doors and rear deck in parallel or series. Parallel if they are 4ohm (HiFi), series if they are 2ohm (Logic7). CH8: Sub
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06-04-2011, 05:20 AM | #336 |
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Turn the x-overs on your amps off and let MS-8 do it all!
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06-04-2011, 05:36 AM | #337 | |
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It only has speakers in the rear deck, nothing on rear doors. - If you have mids and tweeters combined on chnls 1&2, what's your Xover parameter for them? - I do have an extra L7 tweeter, but how do you Xover it with the center speaker? (same as with the jehnerts? Which speakers should be powered by the MS-8 and which by the amps? Last edited by kdarcia007; 06-04-2011 at 06:20 AM.. |
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06-04-2011, 09:45 AM | #338 | |
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http://forums.5series.net/topic/1111...iats-welcomed/ This was not done in Costa Rica, i just shipped everything here from the US. Last edited by kdarcia007; 06-04-2011 at 09:51 AM.. |
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06-04-2011, 10:17 AM | #339 | |
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06-04-2011, 10:23 AM | #340 | |
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Glad I did! |
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06-04-2011, 07:18 PM | #341 | |
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06-04-2011, 07:30 PM | #343 |
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[QUOTE=neusaab;9749872][QUOTE=kaigoss69;9746828]CH6
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06-04-2011, 07:34 PM | #345 |
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Weird bug. Two 2 ohm loads paralleled is 1 ohm. 0 ohm is a "dead short". 1 and 0 ate really close. Check ms8 manual.
BTW, twice the cone area at half the power is the same SPL. |
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06-05-2011, 09:50 AM | #347 |
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06-05-2011, 09:59 AM | #348 |
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Interesting fail. The preamp out comes out of te DSP and drives the amp ic. So the output was working. I assume there is a preamp ic... I haven't seen that failure yet.
But we have seen too many failures. I'm unhappy with the ms8 reliability wise. |
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06-05-2011, 10:37 AM | #349 |
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I have no trouble with my unit. I thought I had some issues with the first one, and returned it, but it turns out I am an idiot and I mistook the RCA inputs as outputs...
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06-05-2011, 10:48 AM | #350 |
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Kdarcia,
The Jehnert passive network takes care of the x-over between the mids and tweeters. You just tell the MS8 the highpass frequency of the set, which should be in the range of 150 to 200 hz. I believe the l7 tweeter will plug right into the connector on the factory midrange. There is a capacitor wired to the l7 tweeter which acts like a high pass crossover so the speaker set will just need to be high passed like the door speakers. I would recommend 200 hz. You can run the rear speakers off the MS8 and also the center but if you have a free amp channel I would use it for the center, while being careful not to give it too much juice.
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06-05-2011, 11:26 AM | #351 |
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JBL told me it would be ok to run in parallel (knowing they were 2 ohm...) while they have told others to run them in series. I would say go with series, to be on the safe side. go with parallel at your own risk!
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06-05-2011, 02:21 PM | #352 | |
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Thank you for all the help, I finally switched installers, got me a Rockford licensed one (didn't know those existed tbh), he took the car in yesterday... called me this morning telling me the car is ready , I gave him all the feedback you guys gave me and he told it was very helpful, also, he told me he had to re-wire all the speakers because all the connections were wrong, that being the reason my car didn't sound properly I have to go and pick it up today, I will update after I get the car! |
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