[M3 Number 86]

Originally Posted by C5driver

It does and has been tested more than several times, provided you can demonstrate how you were in fear for your life. Never shoot the guy in the face and say he was after your big screen.

Good to hear. But it's also a slippery slope. By the time you're in danger, your f-arm has to magically appear into your hands. Sometimes laws are tricky. I guess if one of us was in immediate danger and the other was able to sneak away and get prepared would be best case scenario?

[C5driver]

Originally Posted by M3 Number 86

Good to hear. But it's also a slippery slope. By the time you're in danger, your f-arm has to magically appear into your hands. Sometimes laws are tricky. I guess if one of us was in immediate danger and the other was able to sneak away and get prepared would be best case scenario?

I'm a light sleeper and sounds carry easily in my house

[M3 Number 86]

Originally Posted by C5driver

I may not disagree with you. Problem is that it's easier to cheer someone else on when it's not your freedom on the line.

I'm not necessarily cheering. I'm giving input as to what the best solution would be and for the future of said lost kid. Or so I think. But am pretty damn sure that the kid is not going to be trying to jack people anymore. Maybe this is a blessing in disguise and he turns his life around.

[M3 Number 86]

Originally Posted by C5driver

I'm a light sleeper and sounds carry easily in my house

just gotta make sure you were indeed "scared"

[C5driver]

Originally Posted by M3 Number 86

But am pretty damn sure that the kid is not going to be trying to jack people anymore.

Actually, it'd be kinda funny to see him try with one arm.

[M3 Number 86]

Originally Posted by C5driver

Actually, it'd be kinda funny to see him try with one arm.

If he is in fact that stupid and realizes 'oh shit I don't have my other hand to carry the shit that I am jacking from this guy' as it happens, then that's a whole different level of stupid. No solutions in that case. LOL

[MKSixer]

Originally Posted by C5driver

Actually, it'd be kinda funny to see him try with one arm.

It could be your private arms race. Well...arms race for you, arm race for him.

[larryn]

Originally Posted by MKSixer

It could be your private arms race. Well...arms race for you, arm race for him.

He'd single-handedly win.

[hongsc]

Originally Posted by NickyC

All of this over the Jordan 8 Aquas? Man I couldn't stand those shoes even when they came out. Now, if this had been over the Jordan 4 Cements with "Nike Air" on the back, I could understand it. Picked up three pairs in SZ 15 this past weekend, they're my favorite shoes of all time and now I'm set for 10 years at least. I still have my original pair from 1989 when I was in grade school!

Getting your arm ripped off for a pair of 8s? C'mon now!

I doubt it. The 4s are crappy Jordan Brand quality. I wore my Thunder once and the midsole paint was cracking already. I doubt it will last 10 years even if you don't wear it. I only bought one pair this year because $220 is steep for what it is. It's to the point you're paying resell to Jordan Brand. Can't for that Kobe pack though. Now that's worth losing an arm for at least. Let's hope this teen isn't around, when it drops. He might lose that other arm.

Originally Posted by M3 Number 86

that's ridiculous. In the meantime, let's also put the blame on the car manufacturer, the gun manufacturer, craigslist, and Earth, while we're at it.

Sure why not? It's been before time after time. This must be new to you?

Originally Posted by zx10guy

No. What's sad is how much of American Society places so much emphasis on items like this.

Being Asian, materialism is far worse for us. But at least we try to save for it and pay for it instead of losing an arm for it. We value vanity just as much.

[NickyC]

Originally Posted by hongsc

I doubt it. The 4s are crappy Jordan Brand quality. I wore my Thunder once and the midsole paint was cracking already. I doubt it will last 10 years even if you don't wear it. I only bought one pair this year because $220 is steep for what it is. It's to the point you're paying resell to Jordan Brand. Can't for that Kobe pack though. Now that's worth losing an arm for at least. Let's hope this teen isn't around, when it drops. He might lose that other arm.



Sure why not? It's been before time after time. This must be new to you?



Being Asian, materialism is far worse for us. But at least we try to save for it and pay for it instead of losing an arm for it. We value vanity just as much.

The new 4s are the "remastered", the quality is supposed to be way better hence the higher price. I'll believe it when I see it however!

[Fundguy1]

Originally Posted by C5driver

NYC carry permit? Not likely.

That's the problem with nyc.

[MKSixer]

Originally Posted by Fundguy1

That's the problem with nyc.

Amongst other things.

I hung out in NYC pre-Guiliani and it was hard-core dangerous. You had to keep your wits about you at all times or you were screwed. No matter where you were.

Guiliani turned into one of the safest cities in the country, regardless of size.

Now...it is slipping backwards. I wonder why?

[hongsc]

Originally Posted by NickyC

The new 4s are the "remastered", the quality is supposed to be way better hence the higher price. I'll believe it when I see it however!

That's all marketing to charge a higher price, while doing nothing to improve the product. Box price for the previous 4s I had were $160. The same crap quality and Nike Air on the heel tab and it's now $220.

[NickyC]

Originally Posted by hongsc

That's all marketing to charge a higher price, while doing nothing to improve the product. Box price for the previous 4s I had were $160. The same crap quality and Nike Air on the heel tab and it's now $220.

These seem much better put together, just got two out of the three pairs I ordered along with a retro pair of Agassi Air Tech Challenges. I still have both my arms too!!

[Sidewinderpb]

Originally Posted by larryn

He'd single-handedly win.

Have an "Appreciate." You've earned it.

[M3 Number 86]

Originally Posted by NickyC

These seem much better put together, just got two out of the three pairs I ordered along with a retro pair of Agassi Air Tech Challenges. I still have both my arms too!!

Ha those Agassis. I like the low top version

[1MOREMOD]

Originally Posted by C5driver

And if you were in Phil's position, what would you have done?

Seems phil either needed to act while dude was in car causing immediate threat or let it go. In no way does, he had a illegal gun carry any weight if he leaves and isn't pointing it at you. Can you run over anyone you find out had an illegal gun because they could be a threat, minority report? Shoes aren't worth the risk you incur going back, neither is vengeance worth going to jail. Yeah I'm in for shoe theft? Wtf

[jtodd_fl]

Originally Posted by 1MOREMOD

Seems phil either needed to act while dude was in car causing immediate threat or let it go. In no way does, he had a illegal gun carry any weight if he leaves and isn't pointing it at you. Can you run over anyone you find out had an illegal gun because they could be a threat, minority report? Shoes aren't worth the risk you incur going back, neither is vengeance worth going to jail. Yeah I'm in for shoe theft? Wtf

This is why we need drones. Track shoe thief, blow off other arm with miniature hellfires from my DIY Predator. Seems like a rational proportionate response.

[fravel]

Originally Posted by trixdout

How is he ceased to being a threat. The dickhead still has a "loaded" gun on him. That IS a threat. Who knows if that gun is legal and he is the owner of it. Oh wait, he is 17, no way he is the rightful owner of the gun.

HE IS A FUCKING THREAT FROM THE MOMENT HE PULLED THE GUN ON PHIL AND UP TO THE MOMENT WHERE HE LOSES HIS ARM AND DROP THE GUN AT THE SAME TIME!!!!

#1. Simply being in possession of a loaded firearm doesn't automatically make anyone a threat.

#2. Once the kid left the vehicle Phil was no longer in danger. He could have very easily drove off. This will hold true in any court in the country. There are actually examples where carjacking victims have been convicted of a crime because they used their vehicle to injure/kill the perp rather than flee.

Now, having said that, I completely agree that the kid is a POS and he deserves what he got, but unfortunately Phil will be the one who really pays for this.

P.S. Based on your responses here I can guess that you aren't a CHL holder, but if you ever decide to exercise that right, I strongly suggest you read-up on when lethal force is justified, for your own sake.

[C5driver]

Originally Posted by 1MOREMOD

Seems phil either needed to act while dude was in car causing immediate threat or let it go. In no way does, he had a illegal gun carry any weight if he leaves and isn't pointing it at you. Can you run over anyone you find out had an illegal gun because they could be a threat, minority report? Shoes aren't worth the risk you incur going back, neither is vengeance worth going to jail. Yeah I'm in for shoe theft? Wtf

You're amazingly rational when you're sober. Spot on dude...

[1MOREMOD]

Originally Posted by C5driver

You're amazingly rational when you're sober. Spot on dude...

But you do remember I had my car broken into and went back to the scene, "to look for my stuff". Sorry quoted you before not the phil was in the right bs.

[1MOREMOD]

Originally Posted by C5driver

You're amazingly rational when you're sober. Spot on dude...

I've had 2 beers so yes sober. 12 more, watch out.