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08-09-2013, 05:04 AM | #1 |
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swirl marks help!
hi, i have a black saphire e92 had some swirl marks, took it to a guy to take care of it he made it worse!!!! i want to do it myself now any tips? what should i buy to get read of excessive swirl marks?
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08-09-2013, 07:20 AM | #3 |
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You'll just lock in the swirls with Opti-coat. You probably need a compound or a very aggressive polish.
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can you post pics? you will need to use a polisher and compounds to bring the swirls down, then you will need sealant/wax depends on how deep the defects are.... wolfgang swirl remover then wolfgang finishing glaze will probably work ok on most swirls |
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08-09-2013, 10:50 AM | #6 |
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Otruba is absolutely right, listen to him. He knows his products very well. Our BMW clearcoat is extremely hard. I personally would go straight to FG400, only because I don't have SI1500. An equivalent would be m105, however that stuff dusts like a mofo lol.
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08-09-2013, 10:54 AM | #7 | |
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wg tsr 3.0... I just bot a new 335xi and it has some light swirls and I thought that tsr would be ok... I have a flex and lots of different pads I don't see the polished you mention on the autopia compare chart.... how strong is si1500 compared to m105? thanks |
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Hi, thanks for the quick responses and suggestions , this will be my 1st time buffing a car my self. I've tried meguiars swirl x remover, and after meguiars ultracompound the UC worked better but it kind of desolves or disappears after about 5 mins and I'm back to where I was. Would pad should I get for a machine and wax?
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otruba_843 and wangsta.... what are your suggestions for my swirls? I have a flex, I have the lc hydro tech pads (cyan, tang, crimson) and regular orange and white and red pads I have tsr 3.0 coming and finishing glaze... could I use the tsr w/ cyan to cut swirls or am I better off with stronger polish and less pad? |
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08-09-2013, 11:15 AM | #11 |
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I'm not sure what polisher Otruba uses, but my experience was with a PC. I see you have a flex, so you may actually be able to work those out since it is much more powerful and forced rotation. Start with the Tang pad on a 2'x2' section and see how it goes. Then as always, move up in aggression as needed. Most likely the Cyan pad will be necessary. Let us know how it works out!
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I ask b/c I already have some finishing glaze on hand do you think there would be any advantage to a mf cutting pad for my application? |
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08-09-2013, 03:15 PM | #15 |
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SF4500 and Finishing Glaze are pretty similar, with SF4500 being a lot cheaper. You can use Fishing Glaze to follow up SI1500/FG400. MF pads don't work as well on the flex.
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08-09-2013, 04:59 PM | #18 | |
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I already bot the 'wet fire over ice' combo (bf carnuba sun wax with the bf wet diamond sealant) for my 335xi once I get the paint corrected, I am gonna finish it with the wg finish glaze and the sealant/wax combo |
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I am a bit late to this post but I think I might be able to add some values to this conversation.
Wolfgang TSR is very similar to Menzerna SI 1500. Both products are really a medium polish but SI 1500 seems to have a bit more lubrication so therefore ...a longer work time (which is a good thing if you are to do a one-step). Wolfgang finishing glaze is really not a glaze. It is similar to Menzerna PF2500. Here are some charts of SI 1500 and PF 2500 w/ LC Pads. The Flex 3401 (IMO) is the ultimate one-step machine. When pair with TSR or SI 1500, the level of corrections will surprise you. Do a test spot with the Tangerine pad but I think the Cyan pad will be the one you will be using. TSR finish down pretty well so you might find yourself not needing a second step. I find that varying the speed of the Flex with the above mentioned products works best. Start off with Med (2-3 passes) then high (2-3 passes) then back to med (2 passes). I would strongly recommend doing a IPA wipe down ( I use CarPro Eraser) prior to laying down your LSP to promote a better bonding.
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I agree.. especially with the Rupes 21. I was amazed at what Sonax PF on Rupes 21 with the only Rupes Yellow (Polishing pad) could do especially after I changed the 6" backing plate to the 5" plus the washer mod.
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08-09-2013, 07:55 PM | #21 | |
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yes I checked the strength of si1500 vs tsr 3.0 and they are similar I will get some carpro eraser, been meaning to add it to my kit anyway thx for the recommendations.... for now I will go with the tsr 3.0 with cyan/tangerine to start.... I am hopeful it will do the job I am going to add a bottle of fg400 to my kit anyway for more damaged paint so I will have it on hand but probably wont be needed for this job I will update next week with pics |
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