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Battery Registration (inserting foot in mouth now)
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10-28-2010, 01:20 PM | #67 | |
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Weaselboy, good post with valid points.
My apologies in advance if I sound confrontational; 30+ years in the military has led to me sounding like I'm poking my index finger in others chests when I post on the internet. My goal is for robust debate, not disemboweling those with different points of view. Quote:
1) AGM is far better quality than lead acid batteries. My AGM battery needed to be replaced after 36 1/2 months of service life. In terms of lifespan, that's not better than lead acid batteries. 2) Why use AGM batteries if they do not offer longer lifespan than traditional lead acid batteries? Because BMW puts them in the trunk of the car. Is there not enough room on a full sized sedan to put them in the engine compartment? And I don't buy the weight and balance issue; other companies have solved that issue on full sized sedans. |
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10-28-2010, 01:20 PM | #68 | |
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If no codes are being thrown use Chevron Techron fuel injector cleaner (concentrate). It solves rpm fluctuating upon cold start-up. Also, for most BMW problems start off by scanning your car with the Peake Research Tool. It contains the actual BMW codes. If you want to register a newly installed battery for free (just buy a $10 cable) and google/download BMWLogger
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10-28-2010, 01:37 PM | #69 | |
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I am pointing out to you that the transmission is another Rube Goldberg machine. I understand your desire to defend BMW, but you really need to take 10 steps back and see how these things are done on other high end luxury cars. I can't tell you how easy this is on my wife's Acura TL because it's sooo much easier that we're talking the difference between elementary school and master's degree. I screwed up. I bought a car that is not designed to be driven and serviced by the auto enthusiast. This is a car that is designed to be driven by someone who doesn't know where the hood latch is located and getting an oil change is an excuse to go into the dealership and talk to salesmen about trading in their car for a new one. |
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10-28-2010, 01:57 PM | #70 |
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^ +1 I agree with you. This model is more difficult to work with than my e46.
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10-28-2010, 02:02 PM | #71 | |
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I think the issue you have is that all cars are easier to service when on a lift rather than in the driveway on jackstands. IMO the E90 is no harder nor easier to service when on stands than any other car. If you ever need to change out the in-tank fuel pump, it is a breeze; pull the rear seat cusion out, remove the access panel, unlock the retaining ring, pull the pump out. Most cars you have to drain and drop the tank. |
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10-28-2010, 02:11 PM | #72 | |
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1. Your experience is the opposite of mine. AGM have been lasting longer for me. AGM for the same physical size normally have higher CCA capacity. 2. As I mentioned... I think they are better. I'm not so sure AGM has much to do with the trunk mount though. Before AGM BMW was trunk mounting with a simple vent tube. AGM does simplify the trunk mount since no vent is required. |
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10-28-2010, 02:11 PM | #73 | |
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Boy, this thread went way off topic!
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If no codes are being thrown use Chevron Techron fuel injector cleaner (concentrate). It solves rpm fluctuating upon cold start-up. Also, for most BMW problems start off by scanning your car with the Peake Research Tool. It contains the actual BMW codes. If you want to register a newly installed battery for free (just buy a $10 cable) and google/download BMWLogger
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10-28-2010, 02:12 PM | #74 |
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I have read over all this and i myself may have to replace my battery someday as of now my 06 325i seems fine. I agree i don't like spending 300 to 400 to have my battery replaced but on the other hand as much as you pay for these cars i do want it done right and will pay when the time comes.
I am really surprised how many people will buy high dollar parts like body kits and wheels and tires and all kinds of mods to make there cars a little faster but when it comes to maintenance like replacing the battery they go to pep boys. I realized when i purchased my BMW and by the way it was used that there is expenses that come with owning one i also bought the extended warranty, i have replaced head lights and my wheels and tires. I have no regrets and i will buy another one in the future. All cars are becoming more complicated and harder to work on if you really want a car you can work on and enjoy the feel of doing it yourself maybe you should consider a older model BMW or what ever type of car you are into. we are headed into the future of cars being more electronic and complicated after all how many manufacturers take into consideration that someone wants to work on there own car and fix it when most people trade them in by the time there 5 years old and warranty's are up by then. I will most likely trade my car in when it's payed for after reading about New cars and BMW's and how there not built to work on by a backyard mechanic
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10-28-2010, 02:28 PM | #75 | |
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On the lift issue, I always service my cars at the auto hobby shop on military bases. I always use a lift; I can't remember the last time I used a jack stand. |
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10-28-2010, 09:28 PM | #76 |
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[QUOTE=iflyjetzzz;8235548] Add in BMW's decision to not change oil annually under the maintenance agreement QUOTE]
I read on another forum that BMW NA has since rescinded their decision on the annual low mileage oil change to where they will now do it. |
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10-28-2010, 10:23 PM | #77 | |
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10-30-2010, 06:15 AM | #78 | |
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Today? - get a SES light indicating a problem, plug in a scanner, read the code and you know what the problem is or youre pretty close to knowing what the problem is. A modern BMW? - you change the oil every 15,000 miles, the plugs every 100,000 miles, air filter every 50,000 miles; I think its great. |
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10-30-2010, 06:20 AM | #79 | |
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I have a lift in my garage, in never use jacksands either. When I wrote up the coolant DIY it was using the lift, and I found it no harder than my 1972 Pinto. |
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10-30-2010, 08:02 AM | #80 |
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I'd like to chime in on why you probably need to register AGM...
AGM (absorbed glass mat) have an advantage compared to SLA (sealed lead acid) in that they lose less electrolyte in hot dry climates and they vent very little gas. However the technology has a disadvantage to SLA in that they have a higher internal source resistance and therefore less CCA (cold cranking amps) than SLA. Therefore you get larger voltage drops than you would with SLA. Methinks this is the reason for the registration process. To "register" the voltage drops somehow? I may be wrong just my educated guess... |
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10-30-2010, 06:53 PM | #81 | |
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I would have to go look at the manual again, but there are quite a few computers on the car's network, and probably somewhere around 3-4 dozen sensors. I tried out a lightweight battery and went back to the OEM. The light weight just was not high enough capacity for my 1-2 days a week of driving the car. Battery registration is a good idea, and there are enough people with the bavtec tool that someone in the regional forums may be willing to let you use theirs for no cost. Literally takes a couple of seconds to send the command. I agree the dealer is a ripoff for that service. |
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11-01-2010, 02:53 AM | #82 |
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The battery on my 06 330i died today. The dealer I normally take it to wants $500. I will get an Interstate battery in the morning. As for registering it , I'll take it to The M Shop in Glendale, CA. I was thinking about EAS but my alarm is still not working properly after they programmed it.
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11-02-2010, 09:05 PM | #83 | |
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11-02-2010, 10:46 PM | #84 |
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Damn.... I just came upon this thread and hope my dealer (in Panama) knows what this is and can do it.
I bought a $350 battery (I bought the bigger spec one they had listed for the 335, there was also a $299 one) for my 335i last week cause the original is dead but they didnīt mention anything about registering or coding at all. They just told me it wouldnīt be covered by the 2yr warranty but because they werenīt installing it and thatīs it. DAMMIT! |
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11-03-2010, 03:52 PM | #85 | |
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The dealer has fixed capital costs (buildings, lifts, air compressors, HVAC systems, computer systems, etc.) and operating expenses such as taxes, insurance, electricity, parts inventory, snow removal, building maintenance, grounds keeping, etc.; all of which have to be covered for the Tech to do the "5-minute" registration procedure. This is how business works, and why the dealer charges for almost two hours to perform the procedure. Get it? |
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11-04-2010, 11:16 AM | #86 | |
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So you are saying if the normal book time for a water pump R&R is two hours, it is okay for the dealer to charge for three hours because of the overhead you described. Not going to fly. |
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