New v4 4-15 beta maps now publicly available

OpenFlash · 04-23-2010, 11:29 AM

Previously only available to private beta testers.....

Posted HERE!

Lots of new stuff:

-CANclear functionality
-More Intuitive User Torque Scaling
-Progressive methanol mapping
-Nitrous Control
-6AT Launch control
-Auto-Tune logging parameter

This also means a lot of documentation to read. If you don't want to do this or are a complete n00b to the wonderful world of Procede tuning (we were all there sometime!), stick with the 2-23 maps/firmware which are now non-Beta.

There is nothing wrong with waiting a bit until Auto-Tuning is fully functional. When it is, all you need to do is activate the feature and simply do a few 3rd gear runs and let the Procede dial everything in. So don't feel pressured to jump the gun. Unless you are already running methanol and need progressive meth mapping, of course.

Shiv

Panoz · 04-23-2010, 11:36 AM

Nice...
I'd like to ask if the "auto-tunning feature" expected to auto adjust the Ign Advance cor. only or other tune parameters as well , in order to know if I should get excited or not.
If you dont want to share specific info yet , a "yes" or "no" will just do.

OpenFlash · 04-23-2010, 11:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Panoz

Nice...
I'd like to ask if the "auto-tunning feature" expected to auto adjust the Ign Advance cor. only or other tune parameters as well , in order to know if I should get excited or not.
If you dont want to share specific info yet , a "yes" or "no" will just do.

It will adjust both Ignition Correction and User Torque. And eventually even dial in boost control gain (future use 2).

Panoz · 04-23-2010, 12:00 PM

Thank you Shiv...I was hopping that there would be fuel/AFR adjustments as well.
Don't you think that we could extract more power by custom-tunning this through auto-tune feature"?

forza1976 · 04-23-2010, 12:03 PM

Nice Shiv, I imagine this is going to make a lot of the non-beta folks very happy!

These are good maps!

OpenFlash · 04-23-2010, 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Panoz

Thank you Shiv...I was hopping that there would be fuel/AFR adjustments as well.
Don't you think that we could extract more power by custom-tunning this through auto-tune feature"?

AFR targets are closed loop. So there is, in a sense, auto-tuning. But that is done by the DME, not the Procede.

The auto-tuning feature will work better than any amount of manual custom tuning.

Shiv

Chefcg1 · 04-23-2010, 01:27 PM

are these public maps different from the beta tester 4/15 maps?

OpenFlash · 04-23-2010, 01:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chefcg1

are these public maps different from the beta tester 4/15 maps?

Nope. Exactly the same as the 4-15 maps I sent to you guys last week.

Shiv

prich2004 · 04-23-2010, 02:40 PM

I can't wait to try this out! Too bad I have to address my misfire on cyln. 6 on cold startups first...no biggie.

I know the info is probably out there and scattered all over the place, but here is a list of the parameters we should be looking at for this new release. Can anyone tell me what Debug Byte 1 is?

Debug Word 5 -- DME boost target
Debug Word 6 -- DME suction pipe pressure (that's what she said)
Debug Byte 4 -- Learning Value?
Debug Byte 1 -- ??
Debug Byte 6 -- Tune Aggression

Shiv, you should update your sig since auto-tuning has officially been released!

Just sayin...

OpenFlash · 04-23-2010, 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by prich2004

I can't wait to try this out! Too bad I have to address my misfire on cyln. 6 on cold startups first...no biggie.

I know the info is probably out there and scattered all over the place, but here is a list of the parameters we should be looking at for this new release. Can anyone tell me what Debug Byte 1 is?

Debug Word 5 -- DME boost target
Debug Word 6 -- DME suction pipe pressure (that's what she said)
Debug Byte 4 -- Learning Value?
Debug Byte 1 -- ??
Debug Byte 6 -- Tune Aggression

Shiv, you should update your sig since auto-tuning has officially been released!

Just sayin...

All those debug values are currently defined/labeled if you drop the datalog setup files into your procede folder

shiv

prich2004 · 04-23-2010, 03:16 PM

Doh! Haven't gotten that far yet!! Damn work.... :-/

Funkmob · 04-23-2010, 03:41 PM

These maps are good , i feel that part throtlle cruise has improved on my car.

Do we really have to wait with trying out the launch control?

WOPALX · 04-23-2010, 04:24 PM

Shiv I've been really slow to update, can you point me to the link please for the latest version of the Reader software please that is suitable for these maps.

Thanks in advance.

OpenFlash · 04-23-2010, 04:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WOPALX

Shiv I've been really slow to update, can you point me to the link please for the latest version of the Reader software please that is suitable for these maps.

Thanks in advance.

Sure. Just read the info this link. Posted above as well.

cn555ic · 04-23-2010, 04:43 PM

I logged my tune aggressiveness and its nice, right at the sweet spot .02!!!

Ready for the autotune Shiv....Car is loving the extra meth with the larger M7 nozzle compared to my M5 nozzle that I was using for a while!

integlspwr · 04-23-2010, 05:02 PM

i luv how shiv drops it in time for the week end. =)

themyst · 04-23-2010, 05:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cn555ic

I logged my tune aggressiveness and its nice, right at the sweet spot .02!!!

Ready for the autotune Shiv....Car is loving the extra meth with the larger M7 nozzle compared to my M5 nozzle that I was using for a while!

As per vishnutuning.com:

On the other hand, if this value is only in the 0-1 range during most conditions, then your tune is too conservative and you are sacrificing a bit of power. Of course, nothing is wrong with this. But making the tune more aggressive (increasing UT or dropping IC) will raise this value to the "sweet spot" of 2-3, resulting in more repeatable and safe power.

I think you could go slightly more aggressive based on this statement.

shyestsparks · 04-23-2010, 05:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cn555ic

I logged my tune aggressiveness and its nice, right at the sweet spot .02!!!

Ready for the autotune Shiv....Car is loving the extra meth with the larger M7 nozzle compared to my M5 nozzle that I was using for a while!

You meant 2.0 right? I thought Shiv is now running an M10 nozzle now? I'm happy for you man; now if we could have that N2O wiring diagram from Shiv, then we'll be golden.

themyst · 04-23-2010, 05:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shyestsparks

You meant 2.0 right? I thought Shiv is now running an M10 nozzle now? I'm happy for you man; now if we could have that N2O wiring diagram from Shiv, then we'll be golden.

If that's what he meant, then forget my last statement!

cn555ic · 04-23-2010, 06:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shyestsparks

You meant 2.0 right? I thought Shiv is now running an M10 nozzle now? I'm happy for you man; now if we could have that N2O wiring diagram from Shiv, then we'll be golden.

Hmm no my channel properties must be off because I am loggin .2!!! Whats the channel input properties for debug byte 6....Can someone post it up for me...I dunno why its like this..

OpenFlash · 04-23-2010, 06:09 PM

It can be 0.2. It can even go as low as 0 if there is a complete absense of ignition retard. Just make sure you see it moving around a bit. If it's stuck at one value, then you probably set up the datalog channels wrong. Or didn't drop the latest datalog set-up files into your procede folder.

The set up info:

cn555ic · 04-23-2010, 06:46 PM

Thanks Shiv...I thought I was bugging out!! I have the right properties, so its definitely workingn for sure the values do move! The car is running really strong...Cant wait till you activate the auto-tune and the launch control!

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Panoz Lieutenant Colonel 82 Rep 1,575 Posts Drives: E92 Space Grey 335i ,Aero Kit Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: EU iTrader: (0)	Thank you Shiv...I was hopping that there would be fuel/AFR adjustments as well. Don't you think that we could extract more power by custom-tunning this through auto-tune feature"? __________________ Procede V4 , Catless DPs, Forge FMIC, Injen Intake, VK Oilcooler, Hartge Quads Exhaust, Modded CDV, Synapse BOV Kit, BMW Performance 335i SSK Kit, P3 vent boost gauge Space Grey 335i -> See more pics HERE
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WOPALX Lieutenant Colonel 86 Rep 1,993 Posts Drives: 335i Sedan Join Date: May 2007 Location: Sydney, Australia iTrader: (2)	Shiv I've been really slow to update, can you point me to the link please for the latest version of the Reader software please that is suitable for these maps. Thanks in advance.
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cn555ic 441 Rep 18,331 Posts Drives: 335i Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: US iTrader: (6)	I logged my tune aggressiveness and its nice, right at the sweet spot .02!!! Ready for the autotune Shiv....Car is loving the extra meth with the larger M7 nozzle compared to my M5 nozzle that I was using for a while!
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OpenFlash 1736 Rep 17,960 Posts Drives: A Lot Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: SF Bay, CA iTrader: (0) Garage List 2018 Ducati Panigal ... [0.00] 2016 Mazda CX5 [0.00] 2017 Aprilia Tuono ... [0.00] 2019 BMW M2 Competi ... [0.00] 2015 BMW M5 Competi ... [10.00] 2016 Ducati XDiavel S [0.00] 2016 AMG GT S [0.00] 2011 Ferrari 458 It ... [0.00] 2017 Charger Hellcat [0.00] 2015 KTM Super Duke ... [0.00] 2016 KTM RC390 [0.00]	It can be 0.2. It can even go as low as 0 if there is a complete absense of ignition retard. Just make sure you see it moving around a bit. If it's stuck at one value, then you probably set up the datalog channels wrong. Or didn't drop the latest datalog set-up files into your procede folder. The set up info: Attached Images
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cn555ic 441 Rep 18,331 Posts Drives: 335i Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: US iTrader: (6)	Thanks Shiv...I thought I was bugging out!! I have the right properties, so its definitely workingn for sure the values do move! The car is running really strong...Cant wait till you activate the auto-tune and the launch control!
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