[Lups]

Originally Posted by Year's_End

I bet that's a large part of it, but I think it's a little saddening that there's so much fixation on straight line performance these days. The R8 has a great chassis. There's much more to it.

...But it's an Audi...

[Year's_End]

Originally Posted by Lups

...But it's an Audi...

I would totally back that up if you were talking about any other nose-heavy snowplow they make, but... it's like the least Audi Audi makes.

[Lups]

Originally Posted by Year's_End

I would totally back that up if you were talking about any other nose-heavy snowplow they make, but... it's like the least Audi Audi makes.

I can't comment with confidence on those, but I can say, that I considered buying an R8. It just lacked the drama in design, and I use my car as a daily, so as an option that would not have flown so well. The fact that those are the engineers dreams, just kills all the fun for me.

So now I have no car.

[Ezio]

Originally Posted by Year's_End

Depends on whether or not you care about what others think. It's supposedly a sublime drive at the limit and on a daily basis. I wouldn't be worried if the guy sitting next to me in his ____ can outgun me because I'd be too busy having fun.



I bet that's a large part of it, but I think it's a little saddening that there's so much fixation on straight line performance these days. The R8 has a great chassis. There's much more to it.

i would want a V10 for the sound also the power! has nothing to do with what people think. in fact if my goal was to impress people i would settle for the 8, and give that rich guy image.

IMO V10 or bust.

[FC4]

I didn't know V8 R8s were that slow.

[Jamesons Viggen]

Originally Posted by Ezio

whats not to like ? your still paying 120k (new) for a car that looks faster than it is.

A blower would solve that very easily and if you can afford the car, then you can afford the blower. But if that is the case, would you not just afford the V10 too? I dunno.

[Ezio]

Originally Posted by Jamesons Viggen

A blower would solve that very easily and if you can afford the car, then you can afford the blower. But if that is the case, would you not just afford the V10 too? I dunno.

The v8 is there so people can buy a cheaper r8. Pure and simple.

[Jamesons Viggen]

Originally Posted by Ezio

The v8 is there so people can buy a cheaper r8. Pure and simple.

The V8 came first, I forget if it was two full model years before the V10 came.

It would have been a hurtful move to DROP the V8 when the V10 was introduced.

This concept can apply to anything, drop the 128 since they offer the 135, or the Cayman vs the Cayman S.

The R8 V8 and V10 are a good business plan and I am sure the sale reflect it with a likely mix of 60-80% or more on the V8.

I think people buy an R8 often for the exotic looks/attention which the V8 gets them while V10 has no visual distinction.

[Ezio]

Originally Posted by Jamesons Viggen

The V8 came first, I forget if it was two full model years before the V10 came.

It would have been a hurtful move to DROP the V8 when the V10 was introduced.

This concept can apply to anything, drop the 128 since they offer the 135, or the Cayman vs the Cayman S.

The R8 V8 and V10 are a good business plan and I am sure the sale reflect it with a likely mix of 60-80% or more on the V8.

I think people buy an R8 often for the exotic looks/attention which the V8 gets them while V10 has no visual distinction.

they should have just made the V8 faster from the beginning though. i remember when the car came out. and i looked at the specs (v8) and i was like WTF?

[F1Venom]

Yeah, the V8 only gets from 0-60 in 4.6. I mean that's quick and all, but for a $130k "super car" it's a bit lacking. The V10 on the other hand hits that in 3.4 sec.

[M3_WC]

Originally Posted by Ezio

they should have just made the V8 faster from the beginning though. i remember when the car came out. and i looked at the specs (v8) and i was like WTF?

The R8 V8 main rival is the 911 4S. Price when optioned out and performance specs are similar.

[Jamesons Viggen]

Originally Posted by Ezio

they should have just made the V8 faster from the beginning though. i remember when the car came out. and i looked at the specs (v8) and i was like WTF?

Yeah, but they basically had the V8 fully developed and ready to drop in from the RS4. By tinkering and developing the engine any further would have raised the price and I am sure they knew the V10 was coming when they launched the V8 anyway.

You could always option out a 911 C4S to comfortably over $100-115k so I don't see how the R8 is such a disgrace at $120k with a V8.

[M3_WC]

The R8 definitely has its place in the market. It is $46k less than the V10, at $115k. It holds up very well to the new 991 4S. Matter of fact, I would rather have R8 V8 than a 4S.

[Ezio]

Originally Posted by Jamesons Viggen

You could always option out a 911 C4S to comfortably over $100-115k so I don't see how the R8 is such a disgrace at $120k with a V8.

its not about it being a v8. its about it being a 430 HP V8 for 120k. AND being label as a super car

but anyways. i feel if you have a car that looks the way the R8 looks. it should be pretty dam fast. thats all. we can agree to disagree

[Jamesons Viggen]

Originally Posted by Ezio

its not about it being a v8. its about it being a 430 HP V8 for 120k. AND being label as a super car

but anyways. i feel if you have a car that looks the way the R8 looks. it should be pretty dam fast. thats all. we can agree to disagree

I personally don't label it a Super Car. To me, it's an 911 C4S alternative and in my area neither car even turns my head they are so common. It in many ways reminds me of the NSX which was the DD sports car of my youth with super car aspirations.

[Ezio]

Originally Posted by Jamesons Viggen

I personally don't label it a Super Car. To me, it's an 911 C4S alternative and in my area neither car even turns my head they are so common. It in many ways reminds me of the NSX which was the DD sports car of my youth with super car aspirations.

regardless it has supercar "presence" by its looks. general public would agree

[Jamesons Viggen]

Originally Posted by Ezio

regardless it has supercar "presence" by its looks. general public would agree

LOL, speaking as a professional designer-that is a good thing.

Do you think the designer sits there and says, "oh wait, this looks too bad ass, too much like a supercar...let me tone this down in case they give it less power".

[Ezio]

Originally Posted by Jamesons Viggen

LOL, speaking as a professional designer-that is a good thing.

Do you think the designer sits there and says, "oh wait, this looks too bad ass, too much like a supercar...let me tone this down in case they give it less power".

As much as i like your instance replys let just call it at a agree to disagree.

[TSM330i]

It's not surprising to me. Most of the rolling races I've seen the older R8s get their asses handed to them!

Sorry, the CLA 4-door is hideous looking. The hatch makes the lines so much nicer IMHO.

[davis449]

Originally Posted by son_of_siggy

True, but it still impresses me that this car can perform like this and get 30mpg, whereas the Evo is rated at what . . 20-21?

I'm gonna point this out to every single person who posts this and wows themselves at the marvel of AMG "Engineering" that is the CLA 45 (already have before on an other forum). Audi already made two of these cars with these same performance capabilities and MPG numbers (with, IMHO, a superior AWD system): the RS3 and the TT-RS (which did come stateside, albeit for a limited run). Not to mention Audi's with transverse 2.0T's are capable of the same performance\fuel economy with modification for MUCH cheaper than this and still be reliable...I owned one of them, so I would know. Not to mention, you get a better interior as well...even in the not-mentioned-above VW Golf R (that still has a better interior).

[Nkc]

i'm more surprised that people think an R8 V8 is fast. Racing it on the straight kind of defeats the purpose as a load of cars half its price can probably hang with it, even with half the cylinders.

[Lups]

Originally Posted by Nkc

i'm more surprised that people think an R8 V8 is fast. Racing it on the straight kind of defeats the purpose as a load of cars half its price can probably hang with it, even with half the cylinders.

It's the image given. Most of us don't even think of the seconds, when shown a picture of it. Personally, anything with an Audi logo gets me to a state of despair. I can't still believe I'm stuck with one till August.