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      12-29-2015, 09:35 AM   #353
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Be careful if you are not planning on adding an amp. Aftermarket speakers will not get nearly as loud.
Hey Kaigoss, as always, thanks for the wealth of info you continue to contribute here (as well as several others who do the same).

I have upgraded everything in my base audio E90 except the rear parcel speakers. I want to upgrade these for the benefit of my rear passengers.

I believe the best budget speaker was the Vibe Slick 4, but the link in your sticky says it's discontinued. I found this set on eBay, seems legit to me but thought I'd ask your opinion.
http://www.ebay.ca/itm/262200681322?...%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

Are you aware of other products I should consider? Definitely looking for a budget improvement.

Rest of system:
Pioneer double din HU
JL XD 700/5
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Audio system x-200 3-way kit
Rear OEM speakers are already amplified, just looking to upgrade the speakers themselves.

Thanks for any help you can provide (or anyone else that can chime in)!!
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Hey Kaigoss, as always, thanks for the wealth of info you continue to contribute here (as well as several others who do the same).

I have upgraded everything in my base audio E90 except the rear parcel speakers. I want to upgrade these for the benefit of my rear passengers.

I believe the best budget speaker was the Vibe Slick 4, but the link in your sticky says it's discontinued. I found this set on eBay, seems legit to me but thought I'd ask your opinion.
http://www.ebay.ca/itm/262200681322?...%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

Are you aware of other products I should consider? Definitely looking for a budget improvement.

Rest of system:
Pioneer double din HU
JL XD 700/5
JL 10w3 sub
Audio system x-200 3-way kit
Rear OEM speakers are already amplified, just looking to upgrade the speakers themselves.

Thanks for any help you can provide (or anyone else that can chime in)!!
No problem man. How will these be powered? Seems you have all channels of the JL amp used up.
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Hey Kaigoss, as always, thanks for the wealth of info you continue to contribute here (as well as several others who do the same).

I have upgraded everything in my base audio E90 except the rear parcel speakers. I want to upgrade these for the benefit of my rear passengers.

I believe the best budget speaker was the Vibe Slick 4, but the link in your sticky says it's discontinued. I found this set on eBay, seems legit to me but thought I'd ask your opinion.
http://www.ebay.ca/itm/262200681322?...%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

Are you aware of other products I should consider? Definitely looking for a budget improvement.

Rest of system:
Pioneer double din HU
JL XD 700/5
JL 10w3 sub
Audio system x-200 3-way kit
Rear OEM speakers are already amplified, just looking to upgrade the speakers themselves.

Thanks for any help you can provide (or anyone else that can chime in)!!
No problem man. How will these be powered? Seems you have all channels of the JL amp used up.
I've combined the front and rear mids together into two channels, under seats into 2 channels, and sub in the mono slot.

I know not ideal, lose control of fader and ability to set individual levels/gains on the front and rear mids, but so far it sounds good as is, just need better clarity from the rear deck.
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I've combined the front and rear mids together into two channels, under seats into 2 channels, and sub in the mono slot.

I know not ideal, lose control of fader and ability to set individual levels/gains on the front and rear mids, but so far it sounds good as is, just need better clarity from the rear deck.
Ugh...

What kind of music do you listen to? - If the answer is EDM then I kind of understand. However, if you care about staging and having a soundstage in front of you, this is a bad idea.
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I've combined the front and rear mids together into two channels, under seats into 2 channels, and sub in the mono slot.

I know not ideal, lose control of fader and ability to set individual levels/gains on the front and rear mids, but so far it sounds good as is, just need better clarity from the rear deck.
Ugh...

What kind of music do you listen to? - If the answer is EDM then I kind of understand. However, if you care about staging and having a soundstage in front of you, this is a bad idea.
Don't really care about staging, otherwise I know I'd want to balance each channel individually (and maybe get some TA too).

All I want is a budget friendly replacement for OEM base audio rear speakers... Just so the mids and highs are a little more clear and balanced for my rear passengers.
In time I may consider adding more channels via amps, but for now just looking to clean up rear sound a bit.
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I've combined the front and rear mids together into two channels, under seats into 2 channels, and sub in the mono slot.

I know not ideal, lose control of fader and ability to set individual levels/gains on the front and rear mids, but so far it sounds good as is, just need better clarity from the rear deck.
Ugh...

What kind of music do you listen to? - If the answer is EDM then I kind of understand. However, if you care about staging and having a soundstage in front of you, this is a bad idea.
Don't really care about staging, otherwise I know I'd want to balance each channel individually (and maybe get some TA too).

All I want is a budget friendly replacement for OEM base audio rear speakers... Just so the mids and highs are a little more clear and balanced for my rear passengers.
In time I may consider adding more channels via amps, but for now just looking to clean up rear sound a bit.
I have to tell you, I hate the idea of running fronts and rears in parallel. If you have to do it, I would put a lot of emphasis on the sensitivity of the new speakers in relation to the fronts, because that determines how loud they will play. In my mind the worst thing that could happen is that the rear speakers are much louder than the fronts. What you want is for the fronts to be louder so that the stage has at least a chance of staying in front of you. I know you say you don't care about staging, but I have a hard time believing that. So you should look for speakers with a lower sensitivity then the front speakers. Keep in mind, the rear parcel speakers reflect off the rear window and are therefore amplified so finding the right mix will be very difficult in my opinion.

Do you not have the capability to use the head units speaker outputs to run the rear speakers? That way at least you could use the Fader to control how loud each set of speakers plays, depending on whether or not you have rear passengers. Alternatively, you could install a small cheap 2 channel amplifier to drive the rear speakers, and use the RCA outputs from the head unit's rear outputs and use the Fader when needed. If it sounds like I'm trying to talk you out of your original idea, I am, cause I hate it!
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I have to tell you, I hate the idea of running fronts and rears in parallel. If you have to do it, I would put a lot of emphasis on the sensitivity of the new speakers in relation to the fronts, because that determines how loud they will play. In my mind the worst thing that could happen is that the rear speakers are much louder than the fronts. What you want is for the fronts to be louder so that the stage has at least a chance of staying in front of you. I know you say you don't care about staging, but I have a hard time believing that. So you should look for speakers with a lower sensitivity then the front speakers. Keep in mind, the rear parcel speakers reflect off the rear window and are therefore amplified so finding the right mix will be very difficult in my opinion.

Do you not have the capability to use the head units speaker outputs to run the rear speakers? That way at least you could use the Fader to control how loud each set of speakers plays, depending on whether or not you have rear passengers. Alternatively, you could install a small cheap 2 channel amplifier to drive the rear speakers, and use the RCA outputs from the head unit's rear outputs and use the Fader when needed. If it sounds like I'm trying to talk you out of your original idea, I am, cause I hate it!
I love your passion for doing things right. I'm not interested in opening up my dash area or anything like that just to get the rears driven by the HU. Also the idea of a cheap second amp doesn't work due to my stealth install, no where to mount it (especially a cheap amp that generates heat, unlike the XD series I have now). In future, I will continue to be on the lookout for a great deal on an amp upgrade (got my 700/5 for less than $300 CAD, as an example of what I consider a great deal).

I'm looking for a quick fix for now, that I can still "fix" later if/when the time comes. Your comment about sensitivity is very well received, and makes perfect sense. If I go down this "shortcut" route, it is something that I will look for to maintain some sort of balance.

Hopefully I can find the sensitivity of the Audio System kit I have right now (I think it's discontinued) and the vibe slick 4 (also discontinued), so I can at least make an informed decision that way.

One of my original questions, when looking at that ebay link I provided earlier, does that appear to be the same vibe slick 4 that you had linked in your sticky? Is there something else in that price range that you'd also suggest?

I feel like I'm disappointing you, but hope you understand that it's a constant evolution, and right now I'm not interested in making any major changes until I find the right equipment at the right price.
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Are the OEM base audio rear speakers 2ohm? The vibe slick being 4ohm may also help the front/rear balancing issue too.

Currently there's no issue with balance.
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Are the OEM base audio rear speakers 2ohm? The vibe slick being 4ohm may also help the front/rear balancing issue too.

Currently there's no issue with balance.
I believe the base audio speakers are 4 ohm. Keep in mind, the OEM speakers don't have tweeters, so they will seem to have less of a presence. This will change with aftermarket coax speakers.

The Vibes you linked look to be similar to the previous models, and I know the application is a lot more forgiving than the doors, so I am sure they would physically fit.
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I believe the base audio speakers are 4 ohm. Keep in mind, the OEM speakers don't have tweeters, so they will seem to have less of a presence. This will change with aftermarket coax speakers.

The Vibes you linked look to be similar to the previous models, and I know the application is a lot more forgiving than the doors, so I am sure they would physically fit.
Thanks, I may make the plunge since my wife is currently in the UK and I can take advantage of the free shipping there. Hopefully it will work out and offer a "cheap fix" to achieving a bit better quality in the rear without much negative impact up front. If not, then I'll just be that much more inclined to make a further change in how my channels are addressed.

Who knows, maybe I'll get lucky and find a good 7-ch amp on the cheap, that has a low profile and doesn't heat up, so I can fix all my issues and keep my stealth setup (amp currently hidden under the floorboard in trunk).

Appreciate your help, even if I'm being a bit defiant

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FYI

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Anyone use the hertz speakers? The mounting depth is 65 mm ? Is it possible for a e90?
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Would the Focal KRS-100 be a good replacement for the front speakers on the stock HiFi amp?
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Better to get a different amp first

Better to get a different amp first
that amp doesn't have enough power for good speakers.
And the stock speakers are pretty weak to.
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I currently have the following:
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JL 6/600

I started getting some scratching on my tint near where the speakers are. I can't remember if tint was there before change of speakers. I can't hear or feel any scratching. I think it's either bad tint or installer didn't do a great job as it's taken about 3-4yrs for tint to finally scrap off.

Does anyone else have the same Mids C5-400? Any tint issues?

Also are the Mids and tweeters run in parallel?

I'm thinking of upgrading to Dynaudio. Has anyone put those on? The JLs kick ass just FYI
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I had my speakers rewired to have tweeters, Mids, subs, on their own channel 6/600 (deleted read sound due to small kids in back daily). It has definitely improved the sound and mids fit perfectly with no running on window anymore. So you can add these as tested on the speaker list.

If anyone can suggest the crossover frequency set points they are running it would be good for me to test on mine.

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Would the Focal KRS-100 be a good replacement for the front speakers on the stock HiFi amp?
This is the exact setup i have on my e92 and the krs 100 with the stock hifi amp sounds great, clean, and fills the speakers with plenty of power, you do not need a bigger amp for these!

I am happy with my setup, the quality and sound clarity improved by 50%
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This is the exact setup i have on my e92 and the krs 100 with the stock hifi amp sounds great, clean, and fills the speakers with plenty of power, you do not need a bigger amp for these!

I am happy with my setup, the quality and sound clarity improved by 50%
Yes, the sound will definitely be better with aftermarket speakers. I upgraded all speakers with bavsound and noticed an improvement. Then I added a Bimmertech amp and was blown away. That DSP unit is the bomb.

All depends on how much you want to spend and how much you like front sound staging.

Added an sub amp and sub and must say this thing is damn near perfect.

just my .02 cents
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Just a question I'm hoping you guys can help with
Im doing an audio upgrade on a 2008 E92, HiFi set up, but have upgraded the head unit to an NBT (F30)

There is plenty of info on E9x audio upgrades using the CCC or CIC headunit, but nothing I can see for a NBT in an E9x... or doesn't it matter ??

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Just a question I'm hoping you guys can help with
Im doing an audio upgrade on a 2008 E92, HiFi set up, but have upgraded the head unit to an NBT (F30)

There is plenty of info on E9x upgrades from CCC or CIC, but nothing I can see for a NBT in an E9x... or doesn't it matter ??
Don't think I've seen anyone upgrade the E9X infotainment to F30! Nice! Pics?
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Don't think I've seen anyone upgrade the E9X infotainment to F30! Nice! Pics?
Thanks Ali
Was not as hard as I thought it would be once we got all the parts
Everything works perfect including the Nav, TV, audio, etc

See post 1913 on my build thread

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Was not as hard as I thought it would be once we got all the parts
Everything works perfect including the Nav, TV, audio, etc

See post 1913 on my build thread

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showth...080234&page=87
Dude, your whole car looks sweet!! Very nicely done!
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