[Nor_Cal_335i]

Originally Posted by zeel

Pardon my noobness, but why would road pulls be so bad? I consider road pulls, track, and drag strips to be "real world" as opposed to dynos.

Its not that they are "bad" per say. I just dont think they are the best way to determine what car is faster/stronger. I feel that using a NHRA certified 1/4 mile track with proper timing equipment or an actual dyno is a much better way.

[chili36]

Originally Posted by cn555ic

I am not saying they won't but if your comparing the two, aquamist fittings
Are the best. Plain and simple. No need to be defensive about it, as I also have push fittings and slowly changing over compression fittings.

No one is getting defensive. I never ha any problems with push fittings either.
So to ME it's hard to justify the price on the so called superior product.

[Mike@N54Tuning.com]

Originally Posted by chili36

No one is getting defensive. I never ha any problems with push fittings either.
So to ME it's hard to justify the price on the so called superior product.

The CM metal push in fittings are pretty good. The AM compression fittings are nice also, but the PWM kit also uses push in fittings on the nozzles, so both are used in that kit. We're only talking about $30 retail of fittings either way. I know BMS is considering including compression fittings also at some point just because they are a bit cleaner.

Mike

[onesuperboi]

Originally Posted by chili36

How is this any different than "at the track"??
Savings if any are minimal. Meth is not expensive to begin with.

Lol. That's my point. Notice the smiley face.

Those were the two advertised benefits of the Pwm kit over the pps.

[Bakeme521]

You guys can say whatever you want about pricing and which kit is better or whatever I could care less. Fact is, the cars were dead even. The only time he pulls me is when I am baby shifting into 4th. I lose all my boost shifting because of how slow I am shifting so the clutch wouldn't slip. None the less, no one car is faster than the other, whichever one started first, stayed out in front. New clutch will be ordered next week.

Also I wouldn't say I have a bunch of lightweight mods as mike stated. I have lighter wheels, a hood, and exhaust. Trunk is not carbon so it may weigh ~5lbs less than stock and the rotors I have a hard time believing are any lighter than stock.

[BrianMN]

Originally Posted by Bakeme521

You guys can say whatever you want about pricing and which kit is better or whatever I could care less. Fact is, the cars were dead even. The only time he pulls me is when I am baby shifting into 4th. I lose all my boost shifting because of how slow I am shifting so the clutch wouldn't slip. None the less, no one car is faster than the other, whichever one started first, stayed out in front. New clutch will be ordered next week.

Also I wouldn't say I have TONS of lightweight mods as mike stated. I have lighter wheels, a hood, and exhaust. Trunk is not carbon so it may weigh ~5lbs less than stock and the rotors I have a hard time believing are any lighter than stock.

Trunk is barely lighter, Carbon hood is 15lbs lighter, benefits of light wheels for 3rd gear acceleration are neglible, rotors are 1lb lighter, etc. If you have the AMS or HPF exhaust, it's 35lbs..if regular SS dual exhaust, 22lbs lighter.

The difference in weight in your car is very neglible.

[Beemw335]

Automatic vs manual...its a no brainer, but still nice runs..

[Bakeme521]

Originally Posted by BrianMN

Trunk is barely lighter, Carbon hood is 15lbs lighter, benefits of light wheels for 3rd gear acceleration are neglible, rotors are 1lb lighter, etc. If you have the AMS or HPF exhaust, it's 35lbs..if regular SS dual exhaust, 22lbs lighter.

The difference in weight in your car is very neglible.

Yeah thats what I was thinking, JB guys have to find any little thing to say I have an advantage

It was all good in fun though. I want to change my intercooler piping, and I am getting forged DVs or the Helix BOVs, pretty sure my plastic DVs are leaking at the boost I am running now. Those 2 things along with a clutch, new shocks, and M3 rear subframe bushings will be on for the next match up.

I also want to play with a few parameters, I haven't touched anything from what the off the shelf install guide tells you so I'm sure there is some tweaking that can be done.

[Beemw335]

^^ dont forget manual has a slipping clutch.
Imagine if bakeme's clutch wasnt slippig and he coyld shift faster....but thats for a new video I guess lol

[Alessandro]

nice runs both tunes run great thanks for sharing!

[Sleeper Sedan]

Originally Posted by Bakeme521

Yeah thats what I was thinking, JB guys have to find any little thing to say I have an advantage

Thats not the case. I posted that because you have mentioned how much lighter your car is before.

[thebigragu99]

Originally Posted by Bakeme521

Yeah thats what I was thinking, JB guys have to find any little thing to say I have an advantage

It was all good in fun though. I want to change my intercooler piping, and I am getting forged DVs or the Helix BOVs, pretty sure my plastic DVs are leaking at the boost I am running now. Those 2 things along with a clutch, new shocks, and M3 rear subframe bushings will be on for the next match up.

I also want to play with a few parameters, I haven't touched anything from what the off the shelf install guide tells you so I'm sure there is some tweaking that can be done.

Very true that helps with the jump..In the end,your car is faster ..Cool vid!

[Sleeper Sedan]

Originally Posted by thebigragu99

Very true that helps with the jump..In the end,your car is faster ..Cool vid!

False. He never passed me. Whether he will be faster in the future I can not say. We are about even as of now.

[thebigragu99]

Originally Posted by Sleeper Sedan

False. He never passed me. Whether he will be faster in the future I can not say. We are about even as of now.

From the vid he caught up and started to pull on you..

[RnmEvo9]

Originally Posted by thebigragu99

From the vid he caught up and started to pull on you..

Reading comprehension eludes you

[Sleeper Sedan]

Originally Posted by thebigragu99

From the vid he caught up and started to pull on you..

So its faster past 130? Okay, I was ahead until then. So my car is faster 0-130? What are you saying? I pulled at first, then we were even. Then he reeled me in a little, but never passed. So he obviously was not faster to 130.

[thebigragu99]

Originally Posted by RnmEvo9

Reading comprehension eludes you

And Spelling for you!!

[thebigragu99]

Originally Posted by Sleeper Sedan

So its faster past 130? Okay, I was ahead until then. So my car is faster 0-130? What are you saying? I pulled at first, then we were about even. Then he reeled me in a little, but never passed. So he obviously was not faster to 130.

Look at the vid he catches up,and then begins to inch up.As vin diesel would say

[Sleeper Sedan]

Originally Posted by thebigragu99

Look at the vid he catches up,and then begins to inch up.As vin diesel would say

Okay, but he didnt pass me, he started to creep up. Therefore, he did not win. What are you getting at? I guess you are saying I won.

[thebigragu99]

Originally Posted by Sleeper Sedan

Okay, but he didnt pass me, he started to creep up. Therefore, he did not win. What are you getting at? I guess you are saying I won.

Never mind!

[hemi to e90]

this thread is hilarious only because of the inevitable variables and the discussion

anyway good videos, proving that tune to tune both companies end up being very close

[BrianMN]

Originally Posted by hemi to e90

this thread is hilarious only because of the inevitable variables and the discussion

anyway good videos, proving that tune to tune both companies end up being very close

.....at WOT street racing.

Which is not the most important thing about a *tune*