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Procede logs - fuel trims maxed - please help
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11-27-2012, 01:13 PM | #89 |
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Sorry, can't stop laughing at your assumptions... That would be like me telling everyone the BMS flash with COBB won't run on pump gas... LOL So every time you run out of e85 you have to flash your DME before you drive your car again... Service isn't an issue because the PROcede Flash is a copy of our original factory flash. The tables are updated keeping the flash serial intact unlike the COBB flash. So the flash is transparent to the dealership. Only downside is if the dealer decides to flash your DME it would wipe out the PROcede Flash. Why would I be messing with my fuel lines? Only those (a hand full of users) with Flex Fuel kits would need to remove it for service. I think those who don't work on their own cars would be reluctant to buy this option. Only if something major happens and then it's a stock fuel line coupler which shouldn't give anyone any issues. I can understand your confusion being you're not familiar with the product. Also, anyone who has done the piggy install more than once won't have an issue pulling the DME. But I do agree, shipping the DME would make me worried. Try explaining that one to the dealer if it were lost in shipping. LOL Quote:
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But... other than auto tuning, meth support, and gauge hijacking isn't all of the other stuff just fluff that the COBB can do anyway? I'm not saying the JB4 or PROcede will be replaced by COBB anytime soon, but I really like what I'm seeing from COBB and unless Terry and Shiv step up I'm thinking COBB will end up dominating this market also. One big advantage BMS has today is the price point. For those just starting out, having limited to no knowledge of what options are available lends itself to the attractive pricing of the JB4. In my eyes the COBB AP has so much more to offer someone who wants to really tune their car rather than relying on a base tune that was developed out of Socal. I know a lot of people who have switched from piggy to flash recently and it seems to be a trend that keeps progressing. |
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11-27-2012, 08:10 PM | #92 | |
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On the JB4 if you are using meth on OEM turbos you don't need the BMS flash to use E85. It's only for cars not using meth running 50% or more E85 (or the rare car that can only use 30% E85). The meth basically augments the fuel system and serves the same purpose. Regarding flash vs. piggy tuning in general I've used both and the boost control and features are much better on the piggyback side. The JB4 is nicely setup to work alone, or in conjunction with the BMS flash or any flash you want to use. It's not really worth getting in to detail in this post but using the piggyback for boost control + features + fine tuning and flash for fueling + advance is really proving to be a solid combo. Whether you use the JB4 + BMS flash or PROcede + Vishnu flash. Mike |
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11-28-2012, 03:25 PM | #93 |
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i have the same problem on 05/07 e92 never flashed, pre 29.2 msd80 procede stage3?
sending the dme to the states from europe is not practical possible to overcome this without any flash? |
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11-30-2012, 04:36 PM | #94 |
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To add more info to this thread. I just got my flashed DME back and my first couple logs look good.
Example. This is the stage 2 map on the E85 50/50 tune. |
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11-30-2012, 04:50 PM | #96 | |
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I don't think it's anything wrong with the procede per se; just something up with certain DME's that need a flash. My issue has been fully resolved by flashing the Cobb tune as well. |
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11-30-2012, 06:59 PM | #97 |
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11-30-2012, 08:54 PM | #98 |
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Big Boosting, My car does the same thing with the AFR where it drops super low, then jumps and then starts lowering again. Any idea why that occurs?
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12-05-2012, 10:02 AM | #99 |
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That log you posted is showing the same issues that I have had recently. Any resolution? Here are some of my logs, also posted on this thread. Last edited by NiVeDh; 12-06-2012 at 09:12 AM.. |
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12-05-2012, 04:14 PM | #100 |
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The log shows a big difference in bank 1 and bank 2. Usually it's caused by a mechanical issue, such as a bad injector, bad coil, or an O2 sensor going bad. Have you looked into these yet?
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12-06-2012, 09:10 AM | #101 |
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I was going to look into the hardware, even bought replacement O2 sensors. Before I started throwing on parts hoping to fix the issue, I tried the Cobb AP and the car runs perfectly on it so I am sort of conflicted. I might replace the O2 sensors just because the car has 65K miles on it and see if that helps.
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12-06-2012, 09:40 AM | #102 | |
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12-06-2012, 12:15 PM | #106 |
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Yeah, I've kept the basic relationship since stacking... just with more tweaks now of course.
Replaced my turbos recently and was a bitch dialing in boost (very tight)... my PID is nothing like the stock procede maps and may need a little more finetuning. I'm still on the stock DPs also, but should put the ARs on again soon. I really like the setup, and I'm no stranger to using solely ATR. |
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12-08-2012, 08:58 PM | #107 | |
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Is that the stacked Cobb flash controlling fueling like that or did you adjust the procede tables somehow? |
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12-09-2012, 10:46 AM | #108 | |
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The parallel fuel trims is more a result of the hardware and meth setup. Trims around 0% is the tunes working together. |
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12-09-2012, 11:18 AM | #109 | |
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Have you relocated your nozzles by tapping into the intercooler? |
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12-09-2012, 12:02 PM | #110 | |
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Meth nozzles are still in the post IC up pipe. |
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