[DylanTs]

Hello, my e90 330i currently wont start, so decided to get a new battery for it but im having trouble trying to register it.

INPA and Tool32. are giving me ERROR_ECU_CONDITIONS_NOT_CORRECT_OR_REQUEST_SEQUEN CE_ERROR
when trying to register the battery

[ctuna]

Did you check that the BSD cable from the IBS is plugged in.
I think they sometimes come unplugged during battery changes.

[ctuna]

Also the BSD line is shared by a number of devices.
If anyone of them is defective can it cause all of them to
throw and error code.
Some of them are the Alternator the Water pump , DSC or DSX.

As always check that your battery voltage is above 12.3 before
believing diag results.

Also if you used battery back up when changing the battery it is
known to blow out fuses.
If you did it from the cabin at the OBD connector it will take
out the OBD/INstrument cluster fuse.

The symtoms are it will not run diags cause there is no 12 volts
to the OBD and the instrument cluster will be dead.

If you have INpa trying running the functioanal jobs to see if can
recognize all the sub processors.

As described in the first of the following links on the first page.

diagnostic manual ista/inpa
https://bimmerprofs.com/diagnostics-inpa-part-1/
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...xo19teM9vkTF-C
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...7x8H3pN8h1fMuF
https://www.bimmerforums.com/forum/s...-P-actually-do

[DylanTs]

I got it to start! i umpluged the ibs cable that goes into the power distribution box and it started! but i still need to code the new battery and i need that cable to do it right? why wont the car start with that cable? can i code the new battery then plug in that cable? please more advice you guys are awesome!

[ctuna]

Run the friggen diags again..
But before you do check the actual battery voltage
with a voltmeter and tell us what it is.

I am talking about the Inpa diags.

The IBS can stop your car from starting when it detects
a low battery or is defective.

Read about the IBS in the first electrical pdf.

You can not register a battery without a working IBS as
far as I know.

electical e90 pdf
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j...,d.cGU&cad=rja
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j...85464276,d.cGU
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j...85464276,d.cGU

[DylanTs]

Originally Posted by ctuna

Run the friggen diags again..
But before you do check the actual battery voltage
with a voltmeter and tell us what it is.

I am talking about the Inpa diags.

The IBS can stop your car from starting when it detects
a low battery or is defective.

Read about the IBS in the first electrical pdf.

You can not register a battery without a working IBS as
far as I know.

electical e90 pdf
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j...,d.cGU&cad=rja
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j...85464276,d.cGU
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j...85464276,d.cGU

I will do that! i am sorry for being such a noob but by diags do you mean check check error memory? after moving the car to a better spot i readjusted the mounting on the battery to make sure everything was secure but now the windshield wipers wont stop and i cant use my blinkers but the hazard lights work. i really appreciate all the help!

[ctuna]

Measure the battery voltage and post it.
If the battery is under 12 volts do nothing until
you can fully charge it.
Clear the errors an rerun diags.
Did you try to use battery back up?

[gbalthrop]

Originally Posted by DylanTs

...e90 330i currently wont start, so decided to get a new battery for it but im having trouble trying to register it. INPA and Tool32. are giving me ERROR_ECU_CONDITIONS_NOT_CORRECT_OR_REQUEST_SEQUEN CE_ERROR
when trying to register the battery

Originally Posted by DylanTs

I got it to start! i umpluged the ibs cable that goes into the power distribution box and it started! but i still need to code the new battery and i need that cable to do it right? why wont the car start with that cable? can i code the new battery then plug in that cable?

Unless you are able to communicate what YOU and YOUR CAR are doing more accurately than the above, it will take someone more "telepathic" than I am to actually help you.

The INPA screen I get. You connected, or more accurately: "tried to connect" INPA to your car's DME (MSV70) and then selected F5 (Status), F5 (IBS-Powermanagement), & F5 (Batterietausch Registrieren/ Replacement Battery Registration). AFTER pressing F5 the third time, you got the Error Message you posted in ALL CAPS, as shown on your first png file attached.

You can actually get a similar screen WITHOUT your computer even attached the your car's OBD II Socket. My best guess is that the error message is basically telling you that the program could NOT execute the desired Battery Registration function either because the program was NOT connected to your car's DME, or it could NOT communicate with the DME.

QUESTIONS:
1) You begin the thread with "the car currently won't start so decided to get a new battery for it":
a) What part of the electrical system (light, radio, etc.) WERE working when the car would NOT start?
b) When you pressed the Brake/Clutch pedal and the START button, BEFORE changing the battery, did the starter crank the engine (i) at normal RPM, (ii) very slow, (iii) NOT at all?
c) Did you measure battery voltage after the attempt to start, and if so, what was the voltage?
d) Did you attempt to charge the old battery (before replacement) and what were the results?

2) Had you ever connected INPA to your vehicle BEFORE this event, and if so, what Modules were you able to connect to, and were you able to use "Functional Jobs"?

3) Did you take photos of the connections at the battery BEFORE removing the old battery?

4) Beside the Negative & Positive battery terminals (hopefully in that order ;-) what else did you disconnect in order to remove the battery?

5) You talk about an IBS cable "that goes into the power distribution box":
a) I presume you are talking about the B+ wire that runs from the fusible link to the IBS to provide battery voltage to the IBS (that is how the IBS measures battery voltage -- see "5" in the BMW TM page attached to next post)?
b) I presume any other reference to a "cable" you make in your 2nd post is talking about that B+ wire #5 in the photo?
c) Are you saying the car would NOT start after replacing the battery UNTIL you disconnected that B+ wire #5, but that it DID start when you disconnected that wire?
d) Did it crank but NOT fire or even sputter as if no ignition or fueling?

If the answers to questions (5a-d) are ALL in the affirmative, then either you have a problem with the wiring connections at the IBS NOT connected properly, OR the IBS is defective.

The answers to your questions (as I understand them):
1) Battery Registration (F5 function in INPA you tried to execute) does NOT code anything. It simply enters the current km on the vehice odometer into PM memory (see MSV70 F5, F5, F2 (PM Infofield 1), top line in 2nd column: "letzter Batterietausch bei km" or last battery replacement at km: followed by the odometer reading in km at the moment the F5 key was pressed. That mileage number has NOTHING to do with how your battery is charged or how it functions, it ONLY is informational as a reference so a tech knows the mileage when the "registration" button was pressed.

2) If you replaced your prior battery with one of the same type (AGM vs. FLA) and of the same Ah (Amp-hour) rating, then there is NOTHING to code. If the new battery is of a different type or Ah rating, then INPA is NOT able to change the settings -- you need to use NCS Dummy (the easiest tool to use for that purpose, included in Standard Tools when you installed INPA).

3) The connection to the IBS that DOES need to be made is the single wire connector from the IBS that plugs into the BSD Connector ABOVE the Negative Battery Terminal. THAT wire allows the IBS to communicate with the DME (and the DME & its PM (Power Module) to communicate with INPA). Leaving the B+ Connector at the Rear Power Distribution Panel DISCONNECTED will NOT affect anything but the IBS's ability to measure battery voltage, or possibly prevent its communicating AT ALL with the DME, but it will NOT affect the DME's function, which is apparently what prevented your car from starting.

I would suggest taking/posting clear photos of the two small wires attached to the IBS: (1) the B+ wire that should be connected to the Power Distribution Panel, and (2) the wire that should be connected to the BSD bus connector ABOVE the Negative Terminal. Sounds like one or both of those are mis-connected.

George

[gbalthrop]

First jpg file attached is from the BMW Training Manual, Power Distribution Panel;
Wire labeled (5) is the B+ supply to IBS for Voltage Measurement Purposes;
NOT labeled is the wire from the IBS to the BSD bus connector, ABOVE (-) terminal;

Second jpg file attached shows top view of my IBS; note blue BSD connector ABOVE (-) terminal;

Here are TIS links for IBS Connector & Installation Location (NOTE Gray wire):
https://www.newtis.info/tisv2/a/en/e...rfaces/oYPEvM2
https://www.newtis.info/tisv2/a/en/e90-330i-lim/SQE9rMY