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SpyPix--BMW 335d in Final U.S. Tests (282 hp / 428 lb-ft)
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07-08-2008, 05:40 PM | #45 |
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07-08-2008, 05:42 PM | #46 | |
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If you take the real world data from the web, UK/EU numbers (not estimated EPA style) and calculate it for the US mile per US gallon, you will be surprised at how good the REAL numbers are (33+) and compare them the real world 335i numbers (~20). To me that is a difference....
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07-08-2008, 05:43 PM | #47 |
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that torque is totally useless on our roads if driven legally.
that torque can take you from 60 to 80 in 1 second and sadly the speed limits are going down to 55 |
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07-08-2008, 05:51 PM | #48 |
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or the torque can be used to provide more efficient gearing rather than just for speed!
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07-08-2008, 05:54 PM | #49 |
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Don't know where someone got those fuel consumption figures from - I get a minimum of 34 mpg based on a very short journey whilst the engine is warming up to mid 40's on a longer run. And that is with an auto (which is pretty efficient these days). 23 is way too low for town.... and 33 is nothing like represenative of highway driving.
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07-08-2008, 06:14 PM | #50 |
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Another thing to note when comparing fuel economy of newer cars to old- the EPA has changed their technique for calculating estimated FE. This will impact all vehicles. The good news is that if you try, you can easily beat their estimates.
I'd wager you could get close to 40 mpg on the highway with the 335d. |
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07-08-2008, 06:27 PM | #52 |
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Personal Experience 335d
I have driven this car on the track at BMW driving experience. I noticed it right away because it had euro front headlights, I almost ripped them off!!! J/K!
It was a bit louder than I thought, but it was definately fast. I would say its 90% of the 335i in acceleration. It makes the typical diesel acceleration noise and has the same minimal lag as the 335i. I personally would rather have the diesel, because of the added fuel economy. The class directly after the driving experience told us it would get 30% better gas mileage and 26% less emissions. I also had the opportunity to drive the X5 3.0d. That was pretty awesome as well. It was as fast as the 4.8is for sure. |
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07-08-2008, 06:29 PM | #53 |
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07-08-2008, 06:49 PM | #55 | |
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07-08-2008, 06:53 PM | #56 | |
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Agree, get us the X6 35d and the 3 series with the 320d.
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07-08-2008, 07:21 PM | #57 | |
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The X5 is a much heavier vehicle, and needs more oomph to get moving off the line. An X5 3.0 feels somewhat sluggish, and needs a heavy foot to feel responsive. It's much more lively with the V8 engine (which has great HP and torque), but you pay a significant fuel economy penalty for the V8. The torquey diesel engine is going to make a heavy car like the X5 feel much more lively in everyday driving without incurring the same mileage penalty as the V8 gas engine. The 335d will gain a similar benefit, but it's comparator, the 335i, is already fast, powerful, and reasonably efficient. The X5's comparators are either sluggish (in 6-cyl form) or inefficient (in V8 form), which means that the diesel engine will be a more compelling option in the X5 than in the 3er. I think Alpine6speed's exactly right- if you drove all four cars back to back (335i, 335d, X5 3.0si and X5 35d), you'd probably find the diesel to be a more compelling option in the X5 than the 3er.
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I am already in love with my 335i's low down pull and what I feel is a very creamy mid-range. I really do not miss the V-8's I came out of. What I am most enticed by is the idea of all that torque and the 7 speed DCT---I really wonder if the diesel will be that much heavier--does anyone know the weight?-since i do a lot of highway cruising the combo of strong-mid-range torque and the fuel savings are appealing to me. I am very interested in driving these cars back to back. (Of course I would love either powerplant in the E91 in a perfect world-but that;s just me.) |
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07-08-2008, 08:08 PM | #59 | |
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I don't see all speed limits dropping to 55. It just won't fly. It will only happen if they pull one of those buried votes. Kinda like how they passed all the non-smoking bans. You really want part of the vote to pass but are impartial about the other (non-smoking or 55mph limit), at least that's how Ohio likes to pass their laws.
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335i 17-city 26-highway Uk site 335d 31-kph combined 335i 42.2-kph combined 335d is about ~27% more efficient. Also Co2 emissions it way lower. |
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07-08-2008, 09:14 PM | #62 |
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BlackJetE90, thanks for breaking down the economy info... I was going to do it, however I was a bit too lazy to look it up
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As with the 335i gasoline engine, BMW will use two turbochargers--a small, low-pressure turbo to aid low-end acceleration and a more potent turbo to help at higher engine speeds. Acceleration for the 335d is expected be around 6.2-seconds to sixty, while fuel consumption will likely yield 23 mpg city and 33 mpg highway. .[/QUOTE] So they are not running the same twin turbo setup. they are going to run a sequential, small feeding big or the small one disengages when the larger one spools up? |
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07-08-2008, 09:41 PM | #66 |
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Not to mention the MOUNTAIN of torque that's on tap from the 335d...
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