[windymissile]

Originally Posted by Vaheed1

BMW M4 DCT

£610 including VAT. 3 years. 8k pa.
6 up front

BMW M4 DCT convertible
6 up front

£660pm including VAT. 3 years. 8k pa.

Seems tempting but they are holding their money so well is may be cheaper to buy one.

WM

[Kerr]

Originally Posted by windymissile

Seems tempting but they are holding their money so well is may be cheaper to buy one.

WM

I'm not sure they are holding value so well. Basic list price is £58k and 1 year old cars can be bought for lower £40k with good spec.

[Blitzthedog]

Anyone know any good business deals for VW Transporter Lwb sport line or Lwb Mercedes Vio Sport X ?

[Vaheed1]

Originally Posted by Blitzthedog

Anyone know any good business deals for VW Transporter Lwb sport line or Lwb Mercedes Vio Sport X ?

send me some details mate.

[windymissile]

Originally Posted by Kerr

I'm not sure they are holding value so well. Basic list price is £58k and 1 year old cars can be bought for lower £40k with good spec.

Do you think 3 year old cars will dip into the low 30's K? I don't. Initial depreciation is always the heaviest.

WM

[Kerr]

Originally Posted by windymissile

Do you think 3 year old cars will dip into the low 30's K? I don't. Initial depreciation is always the heaviest.

WM

The E92 M3 was £52k new. You can get a 3 year old car for 50% of that. There is a few around £26-28k.

People are getting big discounts on the new one and they are coming through on cheaper lease deals too.

Then you've got the issue of the new M2 too.

If the M2 is as good as people hope, that'll drop demand for the M4 a bit more. It doesn't appear to be as popular this time around.

I don't think it would be that much of a surprise to see 3 year old cars hitting £30k.

[takumichinoku]

I would be very very surprised if they are 30k. Not until later on in the model cycle anyways when they know a new one is coming. My prediction is £38k mark

[windymissile]

Originally Posted by takumichinoku

I would be very very surprised if they are 30k. Not until later on in the model cycle anyways when they know a new one is coming. My prediction is £38k mark

Yep. That's about what I thought. 3 yo cars may dip into the low 30's but not until the next model cycle comes along. I can't see 2014/15 cars being low 30's in 2017/18. So at about 38k it would be cheaper to buy and then sell on. Of course this would always be a risk whereas with a lease you know exactly what you will pay.

WM

[Kerr]

There isn't any in the classifieds just now, but I have seen 2014 cars for very low £40k.

According to Parkers, a 63 plate is only worth £35k.

[doughboy]

Peter Vardy in Edinburgh are pushing cheap M4 leases at the mo, £150/pm less then M3's - BMW must be struggling to sell M4s (no suprise, M3 is miles better looking).

https://www.contracthireandleasing.c...w/m4/63940750/

It says business only, but they will just add VAT and do it for personal if you ask.

£598 inc Vat on a 6+23. You'd get 50quid off that with a bit of bartering on the phone, that's the best lease price the M4 has ever had. M3 will follow as the model ages.

Peter Vardy is one of two dealers in Edinburgh who seem to consistently do the best lease deals on BMs. (why Edinburgh I don't know?)

They helped me get the price down on my new M6 GC to almost half the going rate.

[gangzoom]

You can argue about deprecation values as much as you like, but lease or buy if your going to change in 2 - 3 years time your set to loss a decent amount which ever way you fund the car.

The difference with leasing is you don't have to pay a large amount up front, and you don't need to worry about re-sale.

£598 x 29 = £20,155 to pay for having a brand new M3 for 2 years. That's a fair chunk of money to throw into a car, but if you can afford it, and want to change after 2 years with no hassle what's the harm?? If want a brand new M3/M4 your have to pay for it, lease/PCP/cash, it's that simple.

[doughboy]

+1 gangzoom. Leasing isn't necessarily "cheap" because you are buying new and will suffer most on depreciation. But it is often "cheaper" than other methods to get the same thing.

That M4 lease price is better than you could ever PCP one for.

There's 2 years financing in there too for the unseen "loan" of roughly 50K ish, so it's not all about depreciation. (interest will be about 5K).

[gangzoom]

Originally Posted by doughboy

+1 gangzoom. Leasing isn't necessarily "cheap" because you are buying new and will suffer most on depreciation. But it is often "cheaper" than other methods to get the same thing.

It's just a shame Tesla are showing no hint of joining in the subsided leasing schemes....

After doing the figures, it's actually cheaper for me to buy at £60K out-right, and sell back to Tesla in 3 years rather than lease. Not much in it, but leasing is working about £2K more expensive over 3 years - Even if you take into account earning 3% interest on the £60K lump sum not been used for leasing.

Probably most sensible thing would be to buy used though....£80K+ P85+ are currently going for £60K after just 1 year. That's a decent saving over new

[old grey steve]

Originally Posted by Vaheed1

Any of you boys/girls looking for exceptional 3 series GT prices?

I can do the 335d xDrive M sport with 19" alloys for £214+vat pm.

Business only though.

Ive been looking for a good week or so now I'm not keen on the GT looks wise but you cannot ignore the prices that are coming up, I went on WhatCars lease page and company's like Nationwide Vehicle Hire are doing as you've kinda stated thought thinking deals on these cars, meaning to my mind there are issues re moving metal, saloons are way higher cost wise, coupes are again a further shift payment wise, a good customer of mine bought a 330d xdrive saloon from Stratstone Newcastle I think though not on Lease or Contract Hire he got a. unmissable PCP deal that down here in the south no one would touch, hence the chances are when I'm ready my money is going Northwards I will do either through business or via PCP as I think the northern dealers have or seem to have a better attitude re offering yo do a deal to effectively take the customer out of the market.

Having sold cars for 15 years I knew roughly what the outcome would be inttersteing being this side of the fence for once and getting the answers that confirm my theory

[DanTheManc]

Originally Posted by old grey steve

Ive been looking for a good week or so now I'm not keen on the GT looks wise but you cannot ignore the prices that are coming up, I went on WhatCars lease page and company's like Nationwide Vehicle Hire are doing as you've kinda stated thought thinking deals on these cars, meaning to my mind there are issues re moving metal, saloons are way higher cost wise, coupes are again a further shift payment wise, a good customer of mine bought a 330d xdrive saloon from Stratstone Newcastle I think though not on Lease or Contract Hire he got a. unmissable PCP deal that down here in the south no one would touch, hence the chances are when I'm ready my money is going Northwards I will do either through business or via PCP as I think the northern dealers have or seem to have a better attitude re offering yo do a deal to effectively take the customer out of the market.

Having sold cars for 15 years I knew roughly what the outcome would be inttersteing being this side of the fence for once and getting the answers that confirm my theory

I'm from up north and I got a far better deal buying my new BMW down south.

I tried loads of local dealers and nobody could get close to the price I was offered by BMW Cooper Tunbridge Wells. I achieved an 18% discount and £1000 more for my E92 335i in part ex than anyone else would offer.

Check comparison sites such as

Coast2coast
Broadsheet
Drive the deal

Ano of course members forums to find a good deal.

[old grey steve]

Originally Posted by DanTheManc

I'm from up north and I got a far better deal buying my new BMW down south.

I tried loads of local dealers and nobody could get close to the price I was offered by BMW Cooper Tunbridge Wells. I achieved an 18% discount and £1000 more for my E92 335i in part ex than anyone else would offer.

Check comparison sites such as

Coast2coast
Broadsheet
Drive the deal

Ano of course members forums to find a good deal.

Fair comment, I've done a bit of phoning around around here and to be fair there's not as much movement as I'd of thought, yet hit the net look at what about a fair bit of it is up North and some of the cars are very tempting TBH on paper at least, like everything for me at least its going to be down to selling mine(eventually)and getting the right deal for me

[doughboy]

M5's are down at EWFS - lowest they've been since summer 2013...

£598 inc VAT for 6+35 or £557 on 9+35.

You'll get £50 off that price if you call Colin Gourlay and haggle a bit, could be a sub £500/m M5 here...

https://www.contracthireandleasing.c...w/m5/63824142/

[takumichinoku]

Originally Posted by doughboy

M5's are down at EWFS - lowest they've been since summer 2013...

£598 inc VAT for 6+35 or £557 on 9+35.

You'll get £50 off that price if you call Colin Gourlay and haggle a bit, could be a sub £500/m M5 here...

https://www.contracthireandleasing.c...w/m5/63824142/

That is ridiculous! So £548 is what is achievable?

Anyone want my 4series

[doughboy]

I've had several quotes from Colin gourlay at ewfs over the last 2 years.

He always beats the advertised price without any trouble, he did me an m5 quote in June and added the de-rigeur 20" wheels (£2500) and still came down 50quid from the advertised price.

Current M5s finish production in about April next year, so I reckon the lease deals will get cheaper from now on.

Remember the outgoing V8 E90 M3s? They were leasing for £299 / month in the end.

[Vaheed1]

Forget about the GT guys,

Waiting list is until March 16 and bmw will not honour the price, as it will run into the quarter. Boooo.

BMW are terrible for delivery dates at the moment, so do March, read April. I have 5 very angry clients at the moment.

[Vaheed1]

Originally Posted by takumichinoku

That is ridiculous! So £548 is what is achievable?

Anyone want my 4series

That's £20 less than me on a 6+35 and 8k

Nor bad!

[doughboy]

Vaheed - where do you see the M5 lease / CH prices moving to as it heads towards end of production?