Products by hand

inabis · 10-10-2007, 09:55 AM

OK, I want to buy a sealant to apply to my car however I do not have a buffer. I'm looking at Zaino or the Klasse twins but it seems that most ppl do this with a machine. Since I don't have a proper garage or an orbital what would be the best product to buy/use? BTW, how much time would it take to apply this stuff? My car has some swirls and scratches but with the winter coming up, that would be the least of my worries...

mds82 · 10-10-2007, 11:20 AM

i only apply zaino by hand. i havent used anything else ever

nmulax · 10-10-2007, 01:06 PM

I do all my sealant and waxing by hand as well.

When you order Zaino, you should get the terry cloth covered sponge. That's what I use for applying it, then I use a MF towel to wipe it off. Takes maybe 20-30 minutes to do a layer.

canucklion · 10-10-2007, 01:34 PM

I used to do everything by hand, but got a PC buffer recently, good investment. Saves me lots of time and rubbing effort.

txusa03 · 10-10-2007, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by canucklion

I used to do everything by hand, but got a PC buffer recently, good investment. Saves me lots of time and rubbing effort.

I get the feeling owning a bmw would be less expansive had I not discovered this forum

normtrum · 10-10-2007, 02:07 PM

Full Molecular Jacket from Detailed Image. Best stuff I've ever used. Incredible glass like appearance on my car. It looks like it's wet. I applied mine by machine, but it can also be applied by hand. It's expensive, but well worth it. Here's a pic on my black saph, before I put on Natty Blue wax (also done by hand).

http://www.detailedimage.com/Menzern...acket-FMJ-P78/

inabis · 10-10-2007, 03:52 PM

Like I said since i'm applying by hand it's kinda pointless to try to hide my swirls right? I was reading about Z5-Pro and it looks like it can be done by hand...is that possible or is that just a pipe dream?

ejazbmw · 10-10-2007, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by canucklion

I used to do everything by hand, but got a PC buffer recently, good investment. Saves me lots of time and rubbing effort.

+1

It saves you a lot of time, and it saves you from the arm sores the next day

Sea2Ski · 10-10-2007, 06:47 PM

I have used/will continue to use z5 and apply it by hand, and there are no swirls.

ejazbmw · 10-10-2007, 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Sea2Ski

I have used/will continue to use z5 and apply it by hand, and there are no swirls.

all z5 does is hide the swirls so eventually they'll come back, thats the main reason why I'm not a fan of z5 although I do like the shine factor.

turbojet3 · 10-10-2007, 07:48 PM

If your interested in hiding swirls get some Clearkote red moose glaze.
Apply by hand then let your car bake in the sun. Top it with Poor boys Natty
blue.

normtrum · 10-10-2007, 09:36 PM

Come on guys....hide swirls? There's no reason to do this. REMOVE THEM!!!
You've got to get a random orb. The key word here is "random". You can not mess anything up. The type of buffer that you could (and would) mess up your paint with is a high speed. Only pros use them. I can hold my random orb from Griot's Garage in the same spot for 30 seconds and nothing would happen.

ejazbmw · 10-10-2007, 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by normtrum

Come on guys....hide swirls? There's no reason to do this. REMOVE THEM!!!
You've got to get a random orb. The key word here is "random". You can not mess anything up. The type of buffer that you could (and would) mess up your paint with is a high speed. Only pros use them. I can hold my random orb from Griot's Garage in the same spot for 30 seconds and nothing would happen.

+1

why waste all that time when you could just take the swirls or scratches out for good and not having to worry about the next time you have to cover them...

inabis · 10-11-2007, 04:32 PM

Has anybody used duragloss 105? I heard this was pretty good, but I dont know if it covers swirls...I use their aquawax and its awesome...if I was thinking about using Jeff Werkstatt...what products should I go for?? After reading autopia for a while everything just is confusing, there are so many combos it makes my brain hurt

Former_Boosted_IS · 10-12-2007, 08:06 AM

I have used P21S and it is SUPER easy to apply by hand and that is my wax of choice. Yesterday I tried the Klasse All-in-One and Sealant Glaze by hand it was a breeze to do as well. From the time I started washing the X5 to the time I finished was about 2 hours and 30 minutes. I am very pleased with the product and the longevity is supposed to be great from the reviews.

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inabis Captain 281 Rep 955 Posts Drives: E90 Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Daytona Beach->Denver->Seattle->The Bay iTrader: (2) Garage List 2006 325i [0.00]	Products by hand OK, I want to buy a sealant to apply to my car however I do not have a buffer. I'm looking at Zaino or the Klasse twins but it seems that most ppl do this with a machine. Since I don't have a proper garage or an orbital what would be the best product to buy/use? BTW, how much time would it take to apply this stuff? My car has some swirls and scratches but with the winter coming up, that would be the least of my worries...
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mds82 Major General 364 Rep 5,842 Posts Drives: 2006 325xi Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: South Central Connecticut iTrader: (40) Garage List 2006 325xi Snow Pics [0.00] 2006 BMW 325xi [0.00]	i only apply zaino by hand. i havent used anything else ever
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nmulax Brigadier General 378 Rep 4,320 Posts Drives: '07 Z4 M Coupe Join Date: May 2006 Location: Metro-Detroit iTrader: (5) Garage List 2007 Z4M Coupé [7.66]	I do all my sealant and waxing by hand as well. When you order Zaino, you should get the terry cloth covered sponge. That's what I use for applying it, then I use a MF towel to wipe it off. Takes maybe 20-30 minutes to do a layer. __________________
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canucklion pull my finger to get your kinder® surprise 148 Rep 10,455 Posts Drives: circles around you Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Toronto, Canada iTrader: (9)	I used to do everything by hand, but got a PC buffer recently, good investment. Saves me lots of time and rubbing effort. __________________
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normtrum Colonel 52 Rep 2,225 Posts Drives: e90 335i, e46 330i Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: PNW iTrader: (1)	Full Molecular Jacket from Detailed Image. Best stuff I've ever used. Incredible glass like appearance on my car. It looks like it's wet. I applied mine by machine, but it can also be applied by hand. It's expensive, but well worth it. Here's a pic on my black saph, before I put on Natty Blue wax (also done by hand). http://www.detailedimage.com/Menzern...acket-FMJ-P78/ Attached Images __________________ 07 335i sedan \| Steptronic \| Black saphire \| Terra \| ZPP \| ZSP \| Cold Weather \| CA \| PDC \| Nav \| OEM Alarm
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inabis Captain 281 Rep 955 Posts Drives: E90 Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Daytona Beach->Denver->Seattle->The Bay iTrader: (2) Garage List 2006 325i [0.00]	Like I said since i'm applying by hand it's kinda pointless to try to hide my swirls right? I was reading about Z5-Pro and it looks like it can be done by hand...is that possible or is that just a pipe dream?
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10-10-2007, 06:47 PM	#9
Sea2Ski Lieutenant 31 Rep 574 Posts Drives: 335 i SG, 6MT, CWP, BT, NAVI Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Downingtown, PA iTrader: (1)	I have used/will continue to use z5 and apply it by hand, and there are no swirls.
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turbojet3 First Lieutenant 11 Rep 325 Posts Drives: E92 335 Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: C. FL. iTrader: (0)	If your interested in hiding swirls get some Clearkote red moose glaze. Apply by hand then let your car bake in the sun. Top it with Poor boys Natty blue.
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10-10-2007, 09:36 PM	#12
normtrum Colonel 52 Rep 2,225 Posts Drives: e90 335i, e46 330i Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: PNW iTrader: (1)	Come on guys....hide swirls? There's no reason to do this. REMOVE THEM!!! You've got to get a random orb. The key word here is "random". You can not mess anything up. The type of buffer that you could (and would) mess up your paint with is a high speed. Only pros use them. I can hold my random orb from Griot's Garage in the same spot for 30 seconds and nothing would happen. __________________ 07 335i sedan \| Steptronic \| Black saphire \| Terra \| ZPP \| ZSP \| Cold Weather \| CA \| PDC \| Nav \| OEM Alarm
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inabis Captain 281 Rep 955 Posts Drives: E90 Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Daytona Beach->Denver->Seattle->The Bay iTrader: (2) Garage List 2006 325i [0.00]	Has anybody used duragloss 105? I heard this was pretty good, but I dont know if it covers swirls...I use their aquawax and its awesome...if I was thinking about using Jeff Werkstatt...what products should I go for?? After reading autopia for a while everything just is confusing, there are so many combos it makes my brain hurt
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Former_Boosted_IS Major General 307 Rep 5,175 Posts Drives: 4 Wheels Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Planet Earth! iTrader: (15)	I have used P21S and it is SUPER easy to apply by hand and that is my wax of choice. Yesterday I tried the Klasse All-in-One and Sealant Glaze by hand it was a breeze to do as well. From the time I started washing the X5 to the time I finished was about 2 hours and 30 minutes. I am very pleased with the product and the longevity is supposed to be great from the reviews.
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