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04-27-2015, 07:14 PM | #1 |
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Tune with no charge pipe?
Is this a doomed to fail scenario?
Most likely going for mild cobb tune, possibly pro tune down the line. No plan to do intercooler or downpipe any time soon. If I run with this tune and stock charge pipe am I flirting with danger? I do take my car on road trips and need to make sure I'm as reliable as can be.
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04-27-2015, 07:38 PM | #2 |
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I just blew my OEM charge pipe - on a long road trip - on my 09 e93, and I'm only running the mild BMW PPK tune. Those fuckers really are fragile.
On the upside, car drove fine for 400 miles (to nearest dealer in Albuquerque, NM), where pipe was replaced under CPO warranty. Car just wouldn't boost, of course, and I was worried about sucking dirt in through gap at failed end of charge pipe (at throttle body). Moral of story: Upgrade your charge pipe. |
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04-27-2015, 07:40 PM | #3 | |
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Now, I am CPO. What would the SA's view be of a non OEM CP? They have to know the stock one sucks. I am concerned with it under stock boost! I'd be ok with swapping it before service. But if I don't need to would be great.
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04-27-2015, 07:47 PM | #4 |
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I've had great luck and understanding from SA's in Austin, Scottsdale, and now Albq.
No way a properly installed aftermarket charge pipe should be an issue. My opinion. |
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04-27-2015, 07:48 PM | #5 |
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Everything I have read indicates it's completely random and not worth gambling on especially if you take long road trips.
I installed the Cobb CP and it fits perfectly, I had a bit of a tough time with it and I have read others who have had a very tough time but it should only take half hour or 45 minutes to install. |
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04-27-2015, 08:51 PM | #6 | |
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You think it would be best to call ahead and clear with them or just do it and explain later? Is there really much that could break which they dan blame a non OEM charge pipe for? This is N55 so there is no diverted on the pipe.
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04-27-2015, 08:52 PM | #7 | |
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04-28-2015, 09:31 AM | #9 | |
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04-28-2015, 11:59 AM | #10 |
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I'm running the Cobb chargepipe w/forge DV for the n54 motor and no problems. Regardless of which chargepipe if you do a spot on install they shouldn't blow off. If the chargepipe uses the c-clip, make sure it's seated on the throttle body groove.
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04-28-2015, 12:32 PM | #11 |
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I'm surprised to hear about the Cobb CP fit. I thought it would be a better design.
Anyone use Burger CP?
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04-28-2015, 01:13 PM | #12 |
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Just pick up a VRSF CP. Very affordable and great construction, why pay more for the same part if there is no performance or quality difference?
15min install, I wrote a DIY for those worried about it. http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1026194
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04-28-2015, 01:38 PM | #13 |
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Burger is a little cheaper it seems. Is the vrsf that much better?
Would you say this install is a simple one? I'd hate to screw it up
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04-28-2015, 02:04 PM | #14 | |
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2. VRSF has lifetime warranty 3. Read the DIY posted above, it is an extremely easy install, especially if you have an aftermarket intake already.
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04-28-2015, 02:09 PM | #15 |
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The vrsf is the cheapest option. I got tuned on my factory charge pipe but it shattered a few weeks later doing a pull on e85.
Snatched a VRSF affordable, quality, functional and got to me quick. For the n55 I'm pro VRSF, as we don't have many options |
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04-28-2015, 04:16 PM | #16 |
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+1 VRSF. Great value and fitment was spot on. No-brainer.
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04-28-2015, 06:23 PM | #17 | |
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I have the CP-E one - its hard to tell the difference between stock and an aftermarket charge pipe once they are installed.
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04-28-2015, 07:54 PM | #18 |
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Compelling. Think I'll be budgeting this into my tune. Definitely appears to be the single point of failure
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04-29-2015, 01:10 PM | #19 |
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04-29-2015, 02:14 PM | #20 |
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04-29-2015, 08:26 PM | #22 |
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Huh? CP is the first thing i notice when i open my hood. but i havent seen the CP-E one in person so maybe it looks closer to stock? then again my meth lines do make my CP even more noticable lol.
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