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      05-21-2012, 07:13 AM   #1
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      05-21-2012, 07:26 AM   #2
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      05-21-2012, 07:29 AM   #3
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I think the dual exit pipes on your car has mislead them, write back and tell them its a 320d? so you were deffo not involved in any speed trials or racing. case closed!

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      05-21-2012, 07:34 AM   #4
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May not have been a Police car there, another member of public may have reported you and so long as they are willing to testify in court the Police can take proceedings against you.
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      05-21-2012, 07:42 AM   #5
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May not have been a Police car there, another member of public may have reported you and so long as they are willing to testify in court the Police can take proceedings against you.
Plus I think they need an independent witness.
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      05-21-2012, 07:45 AM   #6
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Opinion of one person is all thats needed, i reported someone once for dangerous driving and it could have gone to court if i had wanted so long as I testified. Independent witness not needed as the one witness will be testifying under oath in court.
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      05-21-2012, 07:53 AM   #7
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Many years ago some lunatic reported me for dangerous driving and speeding - I assume he must've followed me to assess my speed but it never-the-less finished up in court. The case was thrown out in the end because he clearly was a lunatic but it still only took his word/complaint to get me there!
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      05-21-2012, 07:56 AM   #8
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Opinion of one person is all thats needed, i reported someone once for dangerous driving and it could have gone to court if i had wanted so long as I testified. Independent witness not needed as the one witness will be testifying under oath in court.
Surely the defendant would be testifying under oath too though so how could a judge come to a beyond reasonable doubt conclusion?
Just confused as surely then anyone could make an accusation against anyone (either truthly or falsely) if they had the balls to go to court about it.
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damn!!!....didn't know we could do this!!!...i tried reporting some white van ages ago....but police did say that they will "hav a word" with him if they see the van with registration ***...

Good to hear that we can take those crap/ dangerous drivers to court!...does that apply to taxis and buses aswell?...

reported lots of bus drivers but seems like they don't get nufin....
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      05-21-2012, 08:27 AM   #10
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Ask for the evidence
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      05-21-2012, 08:40 AM   #11
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Let me guess, we're you at a38 or big johns last night lol. Don't worry about it they just send these letters to all the cars that be present to try scare you from going there. Nothing's gona happen to you, I've had a few of these for no reason too. There are alot of undercover cops there in cars you wouldn't expect.
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      05-21-2012, 10:03 AM   #12
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Maybe its a wind up ....... easy enough to produce an official looking letter. Did it come by registered post?
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Okay, in my country we call these 'tail summonses' ... IF you did not drive like a lunatic then you should dispute the allegation. The police need to prove each element of the offense. From the letter they need to prove there was a race/speed trials AND it's between vehicles. Means more than one of course.

How do they prove it? They need evidence. It can be in the form of a video or perhaps the testimony of some witnesses. If theRe is a video, you are probably in deep doo doo, if it's witnesses then it can be disputed. Remember, speed and racing is very subjective.

So ask yourself this ... Were you speeding with someone else? Is it worth your time going to court to dispute it? Can you do it on your own? If you need a lawyer, is it financially worth it?
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Did you have your blue lights and fogs on?
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Is it worth waiting to hear something.. May come to
Nothing?!
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What else can he do?

You've got no choice other than to return the form but it might blow over. If they did issue a summons then I'd want to see the evidence as posted previously.
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When you get caught by a speed camera for speeding you get a simular letter in the first place.

You get 14 or 28 days to respond to who was driving and then they respond with either a fixed penalty notice or worse.

I guess the return address is genuine?

It would be a dangerous prank to play as I'm sure sending out letters impersonating the police would be treated as a crime.

I'd be concerned.
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What else can he do?

You've got no choice other than to return the form but it might blow over. If they did issue a summons then I'd want to see the evidence as posted previously.
I questioned my speeding caught by a mobile speed camera partnership van.

I was told I wouldn't get to see the evidence unless it was going to court. I either accepted 3 points and a £60 fine or go ahead with a court case.
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We have a couple of highway patrol officers here. Hopefully one will be able to give a better answer.

I would be surprised to see police taking the time to send out letters for no reason.

Would it even be legal for the police to send out letters causing innocent people distress?
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Somebody else in the same situation as you

http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&sou...TR2g79exYrMd0g
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I presume the old bill have witnessed this then really rather than a member of the public.

Didn't know dangerous driving was a minimum of 12 months ban??

Surely dangerous driving is hard to quantify as it's really a matter of opinion.
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Is it you? Or the guy you were racing?
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