What's your take on this? Used Cobb APs ~$500 or OFT or BT flash

Jnat · 08-18-2013, 01:40 PM

One, I don't think posts should be removed ever. Two, to each his own, there's no 'right' way. Three, Cobb is good, piggies work, I'm sure OFT and the BT are good too. The bottom line is, we are on the forums because we mod and we love this """"! Unfortunately, """" breaks when it's pushed hard, oh well. IMHO, if you're concerned (no offense to anyone who is) with the ramifications of modding, why do you do it? The manufacturers state that they don't take responsibility for parts and materials pushed beyond their design intention for a reason, right?

CaptainInsano · 08-18-2013, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by feedmyfast

i dont know why people are crying about longevity. if you want longevity then dont tune your car. wake up whiners, its part of the game. all you can hope for is that you dont break anything expensive. If you consider yourself a "tuner/modder" and never broke anything you never built anything that was worth while from the beginning.

Salute to all those who pushed the limits of a platform and been stuck on the side of the road. LMAO, we have all been there!!

I like this guy.

Ruhnie · 08-20-2013, 11:07 PM

Regarding the current COBBs on sale in the marketplace right now, what kind of official support can one get with a used AP? Would you have to rely on the generosity of the forums here, or does COBB still support the units? I am tempted to go with a solution that has pro support as I've never tuned anything and wouldn't mind having that.

bigtigga01 · 08-21-2013, 08:28 AM

I would think they would still support it the same. It's their product wether it's the new or old version, it still does the same thing. Plus I bought mine used on here a year ago and have had excellent customer service from Josh whenever an issue came up.

hellrotm · 08-21-2013, 10:29 AM

For anyone interested. New price for BT cable.

$179

http://www.bavariantechnic.com/buy.aspx

marv85 · 08-21-2013, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackJetE90

For anyone interested. New price for BT cable.

$179

http://www.bavariantechnic.com/buy.aspx

this is awesome honestly. I'm glad they finally posted this on their website. you can use it on your car for code reading logging etc... and you can flash unlimited numbers of cars with open source app

Community/Enthusiast driven project FTW IMHO

Ruhnie · 08-21-2013, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by marv85

this is awesome honestly. I'm glad they finally posted this on their website. you can use it on your car for code reading logging etc... and you can flash unlimited numbers of cars with open source app

Community/Enthusiast driven project FTW IMHO

Are there other ways to do code reading and logging w/o the cable? Freely?

secretsquirrel · 08-21-2013, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Ruhnie

Are there other ways to do code reading and logging w/o the cable? Freely?

I'm not sure what you mean by "free". Its going to take an ODBC reader with USB functionality read and upload data. The BT cable is serving as that conduit.

marv85 · 08-21-2013, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Ruhnie

Are there other ways to do code reading and logging w/o the cable? Freely?

well the software is free, the hardware will always cost something. going forward I'm sure cheaper cables will be supported. The thing is any developer can choose to work on this and bring support to other cables. For instance, klipseracer (banned here) is working on android flashing-- which would be "free" for those of us who carry android phones. you see the picture though, community driven progress

Wedge1967 · 08-21-2013, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by marv85

well the software is free, the hardware will always cost something. going forward I'm sure cheaper cables will be supported. The thing is any developer can choose to work on this and bring support to other cables. For instance, klipseracer (banned here) is working on android flashing-- which would be "free" for those of us who carry android phones. you see the picture though, community driven progress

Android flashing will be the bomb for my Nexus 7 with Pro Clip mount. Can't wait to see what he comes up with.

If anyone is looking for the best BMW mounts, check out Pro Clip. I was blown away with this mount and it's solid... They have options for other tables, phones, and devices.

Ruhnie · 08-21-2013, 01:20 PM

Sorry should have clarified, I wasn't looking for the cable/hardware to be free obviously. More wondering if I buy a 1-vin BT cable and want to help a friend tune, what are my options for reading/logging his car?

madbim · 08-21-2013, 02:35 PM

If you are borderline able to use a computer, BB Flash without question.

Spoolin1 · 08-23-2013, 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Wedge1967

After running OFT maps, I ditched the COBB.

Hey Wedge,

Can you clue me in on what the OTF tune is? I'm running the Cobb at the moment as you may remember. What controller is needed to map the ecu with OFT?

Dmacc · 08-23-2013, 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Spoolin1

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Originally Posted by Wedge1967

After running OFT maps, I ditched the COBB.

Hey Wedge,

Can you clue me in on what the OTF tune is? I'm running the Cobb at the moment as you may remember. What controller is needed to map the ecu with OFT?

OFT is short for OpenFlash Tablet

Sick335 · 08-23-2013, 09:42 PM

i like to go fast, so, moar boost plz

Wedge1967 · 08-23-2013, 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Spoolin1

Hey Wedge,

Can you clue me in on what the OTF tune is? I'm running the Cobb at the moment as you may remember. What controller is needed to map the ecu with OFT?

I think @DMACC provided the answer. Don't get me wrong, the COBB stand alone is still a very viable solution as you can log much more information. But if you're just using the backend flash, I would look at going OFT or BTF. OFT will be more convenient and provide a lot more functionality as they continue to develop.

Wedge1967 · 08-23-2013, 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Sick335

i like to go fast, so, moar boost plz

Never enough right?

LOL

How's it going brother? Long time...

Apollyon · 08-23-2013, 10:10 PM

OFT!!

themyst · 08-23-2013, 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Wedge1967

I think @DMACC provided the answer. Don't get me wrong, the COBB stand alone is still a very viable solution as you can log much more information. But if you're just using the backend flash, I would look at going OFT or BTF. OFT will be more convenient and provide a lot more functionality as they continue to develop.

If we could log the basics through a standalone app (or Android app!) that would help immensely. Logging through BT is a real PITA. I'm sure it's coming though

3000GT MR · 08-23-2013, 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by themyst

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Originally Posted by derrick603

I have to admit that when I heard about the boost levels that this flash runs, I was also in the "too aggressive" camp, but if the AFRs look good, timing looks good, turbos are running in their efficiency range, and the motor is not making internals-crushing levels of power, what evidence do we have that this tune is too aggressive? If it reduces the lifespan of certain components, well, isn't that the price you always pay for running higher power levels?

The point is, you're decreasing turbo lifespan when there are other ways to go about it. You could easily run less midrange boost with additional timing and net a very responsive car at the expense of a hair less peak torque. I've personally run this approach for smoother response.

However, the beauty of all this is, with TunerPro, you can easily alter his OTS maps to suit your tastes.

i would like to see thoughs logs and dyno graphs

Sick335 · 08-23-2013, 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Wedge1967

Never enough right?

LOL

How's it going brother? Long time...

moar boost, thats all im sayin bro... ive been in bed for a month now, got into a motorcycle accident, in recovery now. whats good in ur hood?

Wedge1967 · 08-23-2013, 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by themyst

If we could log the basics through a standalone app (or Android app!) that would help immensely. Logging through BT is a real PITA. I'm sure it's coming though

Anything would be better than nothing!!! I don't see how anyone could or would provide custom tuning without a way to log data.

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Ruhnie Private First Class 32 Rep 167 Posts Drives: 2015 m235i 6MT Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Dallas iTrader: (0)	Regarding the current COBBs on sale in the marketplace right now, what kind of official support can one get with a used AP? Would you have to rely on the generosity of the forums here, or does COBB still support the units? I am tempted to go with a solution that has pro support as I've never tuned anything and wouldn't mind having that.
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