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04-25-2014, 06:06 AM | #23 |
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That's BS......both you and the shop have done a bad job of making things work! I would be just as pissed as the op! Please tell me why a turbo install job takes over a month??????
Yeah that's right 1 month in the shop for a Vargas turbo install!!!! Please don't try to only tell one part of this story and make the op look like he is totally at fault! And another thing a catch can required for your turbos???? That is just plain ridiculous. Maybe it's to hide your oil leaking turbos! |
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04-25-2014, 06:27 AM | #24 | |
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They we're "recommendations" not requirements! And yes I didn't have any more funds to spend after dropping that money on turbos. I told john that id install them after I saved up. So are you telling me if customers don't have a catch can and upgraded PCV system upon install your turbos will blow in a weeks time??? |
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04-25-2014, 06:28 AM | #25 |
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The origin of the problem is the design of the turbos. Vargas stage 2 turbos do NOT have their CHRA upgraded. Using the performance that the TD04 wheels would enable, will cause the stock TD03 CHRA blow oil. The way to avoid blowing oil is to stick with the power levels of stock turbos and CHRAs. But then, what is the point of buying upgraded turbos, if the bottleneck is the stock CHRA and you cannot use the turbos to their capacity without blowing oil? It does not help much to get the refund, does it? Its better to get a proper upgrade to start with rather than waste time with a badly designed one.
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04-25-2014, 06:33 AM | #26 | |
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OPs is that you or your trollies? OPs fault for buying a product which requires additional upgrades and cheaping out or not doing his homework... |
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04-25-2014, 06:33 AM | #27 | |
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Vargas isn't the proper upgrade. |
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04-25-2014, 07:03 AM | #28 | |
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04-25-2014, 07:13 AM | #29 | |
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There also used to be a big price point difference. If I go to the 2 websites today for an example of LHD 335: VVT stage 2: 2882.97 + 400 core = 3282.97 RB = 2999.99 + 300 core = 3299.99 So essentially the price difference is gone. The consumer just needs to decide on the hardware differences and track records. The hardware differences have been discussed at length and the forums provide some good feedback. Edit: I feel for both vendors when it comes to install error as it is very hard to determine remotely when you can't witness it directly. That does not seem to be the case with the OP since the shop is reputable. Last edited by scottp999; 04-25-2014 at 07:21 AM.. |
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04-25-2014, 07:20 AM | #30 | |
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So recap VTT Stage 2 WITH thrust upgrade $2799 - With billet wheels $3199 RB WITHOUT thrust upgrade $2999 WITH thrust upgrade $3249 - billet wheels unavailable |
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04-25-2014, 08:05 AM | #32 | |
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A real recap would be all hardware differences. Not knocking anyone, just everything different should help for customers to know what is exactly in the box they are getting: a) different wheels b) different chra c) different internal waste gate design. d) thrust upgrade / no thrust upgrade All hardware differences are debatable to the point where things get nasty Last edited by scottp999; 04-25-2014 at 08:12 AM.. |
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04-25-2014, 08:15 AM | #33 | |
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04-25-2014, 09:46 AM | #37 |
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335icoupe2007 pretty much says it all... My money won't go to a company that responds to their customers like that. I would rather spend my money elsewhere where I am guaranteed good customer service and have noticed that the company has good reviews as well. I've seen multiple threads of Vargas having problems as well.
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04-25-2014, 10:29 AM | #39 |
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04-25-2014, 10:37 AM | #40 |
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Few things that are kind of interesting:
1) You mentioned you didn't have any more money after turbos, maybe it wasn't the right time to do this? If you do it, then do it right, why take the risk? 2) Did you get the refund on the turbos and labor? As from your post it sounds like NO, and you are having issues after install? I'm actually really surprised that labor got refunded (if they did), that is really unheard of. 3) Most vendors monitor forums, so they can address issue or give their side of the story, it should work both ways and I do agree that some responses might not be as professional as some would like. But I'm glad companies are responding instead of taking it in the a.s and just calling it a day. A response is usually better than no response. I think Tesla is doing something similar as it is not taking any BS and that is why it is all over the news. Like this http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/...megna/7538919/ . |
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04-25-2014, 11:02 AM | #41 |
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I see no mention of a PCV and catch can needing to be upgraded on the Vargas site, or in the installation kit they sell.
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04-25-2014, 11:56 AM | #44 |
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this is a total joke how do turbos fail in a week.......................................
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