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      04-12-2016, 05:59 AM   #199
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What about flashing 335d with e60 535d sport automatic trans version via winkfp. Alpina will not work it is different gearbox and different shift points etc...
Do you know which daten file (.0da) it is?
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Do you know which daten file (.0da) it is?
No I do not know, because I would try that already. But some of us somehow can find it out.
There is a video on utube how quickly e60 535d SAT shifts. It is amazing.


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      04-12-2016, 09:18 AM   #201
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Also I am not sure but I think this is the zusb nr list

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Also I am not sure but I think this is the zusb nr list

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Thanks for this list. I'll investigate.
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No I do not know, because I would try that already. But some of us somehow can find it out.
There is a video on utube how quickly e60 535d SAT shifts. It is amazing.
Well, judging the shift quality by using a full throttle pull with preload isn't really the full picture. Some of us are looking for earlier shifts with light throttle and faster lockups of the clutch. Yet, it's worthwhile investigating.
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I think here gear shifts are much more responsive. Also it is just software, I would be more than happy to have it like in the video. It should cut acceleration time, also it would be much more responsive to accel pedal talking about kickdown downshifts when you need it.

Any news maybe you have tried it?

I think this should be the right one for 335D
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I think here gear shifts are much more responsive. Also it is just software, I would be more than happy to have it like in the video. It should cut acceleration time, also it would be much more responsive to accel pedal talking about kickdown downshifts when you need it.

Any news maybe you have tried it?

I think this should be the right one for 335D
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Sorry, no. I have not had time yet. Turns out I need to find and download a SP-Daten file for the E60 first because I never saved those.
Do you happen to know if the E60 used an E-shifter? Didn't they have it on the steering column? In that case it wouldn't work because the TCU is missing to see the locking mechanism of the E-shifter.
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5-series TCU files do not work. Tried that already. The TCU boots but has multiple error codes and the shifter is locked.
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      04-19-2016, 06:03 AM   #207
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5-series TCU files do not work. Tried that already. The TCU boots but has multiple error codes and the shifter is locked.
You mean you had drivetrain malfunction message?
Another to try is 635d zusb.
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Btw what exact errors do you get? Maybe it is something like missing sport button or so?
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Btw what exact errors do you get? Maybe it is something like missing sport button or so?
I cannot recap them exactly, but it argues about the missing e-lock for the parking brake, missing lin-bus and missing can-bus messages.
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I cannot recap them exactly, but it argues about the missing e-lock for the parking brake, missing lin-bus and missing can-bus messages.
It's the missing E-shifter that it is complaining about. There are two types of the 6hp26: One with a manual shift lever and one with an electronic shift lever. The electronic shift lever has solenoids that lock the shifter in P and N position so it can't move if you don't press the brake. If there is no E-shifter and the cal file tells the tranny that there should be one, you get these errors. Also, it's obviously missing the CAN messages of the E-shifter.
635d - same thing?
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It's the missing E-shifter that it is complaining about. There are two types of the 6hp26: One with a manual shift lever and one with an electronic shift lever. The electronic shift lever has solenoids that lock the shifter in P and N position so it can't move if you don't press the brake. If there is no E-shifter and the cal file tells the tranny that there should be one, you get these errors. Also, it's obviously missing the CAN messages of the E-shifter.
635d - same thing?
Yeah now I get it... Damn that mean we are stuck.

Which other BMW shifts quicker and has diesel engine? Any ideas?
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Last thing which goes on my mind is e90 d3 alpina. I know that it is 4 cyl engine, but maybe would be possible to change in tcu for 6 cylinder via ncs coding.
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Last thing which goes on my mind is e90 d3 alpina. I know that it is 4 cyl engine, but maybe would be possible to change in tcu for 6 cylinder via ncs coding.
Nope. Thats a 6HP19 unit and the TCU complains about wrong hardware reference. You can read through the "Trans remap - Let's do it ourselves" thread...most of this approaches have already been discussed there.
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Sorry guys as this is slightly off topic and probably mentioned elsewhere but i couldn't find a definitive answer and did not want to start a new thread for a quick question.

I have a late 2008 (november) E90 335d LCI. Which gearbox does it have? 6HP26 or 6HP28?

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Well I installed the gearbox remap in the middle of last week but only had a few 5 mile trips to and from work until today. I have now put about 100 miles on the car since the remap was loaded. First of all about the flash loader, well it takes about 1 minute to load and then 10 mins of leaving the car at idle before driving it.

The first thing I noticed was the torque convertor locking up far sooner than before. This takes a bit of getting used to, especially if you already have a sprint booster installed like I have. On a side note, get a sprint booster, it really does transform this car and make it feel far more aggressive to drive and gets the torque convertor locking up quicker when pulling away.

so back to the gearbox remap (with sprint booster still installed and on max) the differences you feel are:-
1) Torque converter locking up really quickly
2) Kick down gear change is much faster
3) the actual gear change is firmer and quicker and the pitch of the engine changes very quickly and the rev counter has to plat "catch up"
4) The delay from paddle operation to gear change is shorter

so to be entirely honest....... the most noticeable differences and these are undeniably better by far are 1 & 2. The actual gear change "3" is clearly faster too and lastly the delay from paddle shift actuation to gear change, It is quicker but not amazingly quicker, just noticeable.

TBH "4" is unimportant in the grand scale of things as the first 3 are so influential in the way the car drives and responds that it actually pales into insignificance.

Pulling away from a standstill is so different to before. The weight of the car is immediately felt to shift to the rear wheels and it digs in like side stepping a manual gearbox clutch, it just digs in and throws you back in the seat like there's no tomorrow. It even makes the quaife LSD work so much better and faster to react. doing 30 in 3rd and flooring it, not only is the kickdown to 2nd close to instant, it actually snaps you back into the seat with no sponginess the autobox normally gives, It feels like a manual gearbox, The transmission to the wheels, just feels totally connected. All sloppiness and sponginess is removed.

at all speeds you can feel the torque convertor transmitting the power to the wheels and 1st, 2nd and 3rd gear are far form the feel of stock. Coming out of corners is like driving a manual, you want power, you get it, no delay and no slow pick up of power, it all there when you want it. I am really pleased with this gearbox remap and will not go back to stock....ever......11mins of my life and £420 and a different car to drive by far.

Oh yes, please, all of you, get a sprint booster too on the 335d, you wont regret it and the gearbox remap is probably made even better by it too. I wouldn't give either of them up and I have done just over 100 miles with it, so it may even improve still further as put even more miles on it
Hi, ive sent Si335d a private message also but thought i would post here and see if anyone can shed some light.

I'm interested in the sprint booster but wanted some clarification before i go ahead and buy it. How does the sprint booster work for the steptronic gearbox?

I have the paddle shifters and can shift up and down with the gear lever pushed over; so if i am cruising in auto and decide to put my foot down and manually shift down using the paddle shifters how does the sprint booster respond? Do i need to change the switch on the sprint booster from automatic to manual?

Thank you in advance for your help and clarification.

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