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How bad is using your pod and using your BT phone w/ no Nav screen?
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12-11-2012, 01:15 PM | #23 | |
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Second - it's very expensive to update via the dealer, so valid point. Fortunately we have the Internet and it's *MUCH* cheaper if you can update via Sergej (aka *******). |
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12-11-2012, 02:21 PM | #24 |
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I didn't want the idrive/nav. Found a car without and and had to sacrifice m-sport.
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12-11-2012, 02:55 PM | #26 | |
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I've seen nothing indicating that the FSC codes are bogus or cracked; I'd figured he had access to a dealer system to get FSC codes generated for far less than the cost in the NA market. Regional pricing arbitrage if you wish. Maybe not something BMWNA would like, but I've had no sense of any illegality/copyright infringement. I'd certainly be interested in your evidence to the contrary. |
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12-11-2012, 02:58 PM | #27 |
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12-11-2012, 03:53 PM | #28 | |
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i had nav/bluetooht in my 335i and it was a LOT easier and better for me compared to my 328i now with only bluetooth
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12-11-2012, 05:28 PM | #29 |
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Paying for NAV in a car makes no sense to me. A $100 TomTom is better than ANY built-in NAV system I have ever used, and as a 30+ week a year car renter for work I have used ALL of them. And when the maps get stale you can just get a new $100 TomTom and get the latest hardware too. And you can use it in a different car, rental car, lend it to your Mom, whatever.
And I certainly have less than zero interest in having album are displayed on a gigantic screen in my car.
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12-11-2012, 06:18 PM | #30 |
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It's cool. As far as I know it's just regional arbitrage, if I were to learn it isn't kosher I'd not go that route in the future. The FSC code is pretty long and is based on VIN and map update, so there's something generating it.
Krhodes1: I respect your opinion. I've had portable Nav and I've had built in. Portable has some advantages. Yet the portability is also a disadvantage: it begs for someone to smash your window and steal it even if it's in the locked glove box with the window mount on the floor supposedly difficult to see due to it being evening. Guess how I know. So yes, built in Nav is more expensive and typically less capable than many portables, the convenience factor of not worrying about always putting it away is worth a fair bit to me. Especially so with a Vert. Is it worth it everyone? Of course not. If I still lived in a small town and already knew all the roads in the county I doubt I'd use Nav much but on trips, same if the car was a weekend fun car instead of a DD. |
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12-11-2012, 06:49 PM | #32 |
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I guess I'm just not sure I'd be able to find a 2011 msport with nav, prem package, step, BT, iPod USB in Ohio. I may hold out. I drove my friends 2011 335xi today for 120 miles. It's doesn't have nav, iPod USB, prem package or BT but it does have the sports package. I just love the car. Seat was a little tight but I'd get used to that. Loved the fact we averaged 28 mpg too in what is a very fast and sporty car! Anyway, after experiencing a 335 without nav, I'd say I would occasionally miss it but so long as the car had BT, USB and satellite radio I'd be good to go. We'll see what happens with this car I have my eye on. Ie essentially waited for years to get a 335i so a few more mos wont hurt if I need to be patience. Did I say how awesome the 335xi was to drive today??!!? Me want...
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12-11-2012, 07:01 PM | #33 | |
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12-11-2012, 07:08 PM | #34 | |
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Buying a luxury (above 30k)2011 car with no nav is insane. Half of the fun is enjoying the electronics. Nav is just one of them. You get dvd, SAT and other nice things in the package. I had it in a list of very difficult options as I was in search for a diesel 3 series. Got it and love it. 30mpg and unbelievably explosive torque.... Just checked and right now there are 175 2011 BMW 3 series for sale in a 200mile radius from you. Just pick one. Also if you find the right car, shipping it to you from anywhere in US will be max $1k. Consider this option and have fun!
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12-11-2012, 11:53 PM | #36 |
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Try using it without any info on the screen. You have to manually control your ipod or phone if you want to change a song.
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12-12-2012, 12:21 AM | #37 | |
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How long does it take your handheld nav to lock in on GPS when starting up? Built in nav is ready to go as soon as you start the car. How well does your handheld nav work in super urban environments, tunnels, or parking garages? Built in navs can still track you with vehicle speed and compass info. Always have to remember to unplug and hide your hand held nav, mount, and charger for fear of theft? Not so with built in nav. And it's more than just navigation. The iDrive provides much more functionality and integration with all systems in the car. Entertainment, phone, onboard computer (text read out of check-control messages instead of a mystery icon), GUI for vehicle personalization settings, etc.
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12-12-2012, 01:53 AM | #38 |
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i have no nav but honestly dont even know how to use those radio buttons. I just use the Yes button when theres an incoming call , end to end the call and the rest on the phone
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12-12-2012, 08:56 AM | #39 |
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Try using www.cargurus.com for your vehicle search. It even keeps up with market value pricing trends. It also requires no personal information to get prices unlike TruCar.
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12-12-2012, 09:57 AM | #41 |
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This is a great point. I noticed that when I had a non-iDrive loaner 328 a few weeks back, the radio stuff was really dim and difficult to read when wearing my (prescription) polarized sunglasses. No issues with the iDrive screens, not even the magenta/green banding you'll get with the nav screen on some other cars.
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All that said, I have done side-by-side comparisons of my handheld with BMW loaner cars which had nav systems. My handheld maps out traffic and reroutes me much better than the integrated nav. I also don't have to pay extra for speed limit info.
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