Running aftermarket wheels WITHOUT tire pressure sensors...

fueledbymetal · 10-26-2006, 06:10 AM

...has worked OK for me so far. I had bought my new wheel/tire combo before I found out that the '07's have in-wheel sensors. I thought a dummy light would have illuminated at the very least, but I've driven over 50 miles and haven't had any sort of error or caution messages from the car. I was planning on installing a set of sensors, but now I think I'll just save the cash and continue to check my tires myself as I have on every other car I've owned

fwiw, my wheels can be seen here:
http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=34478

3thirty5 · 10-26-2006, 04:16 PM

good to know, i was actually wondering about that too... now i know i could save some money.

arbitrage · 10-26-2006, 04:58 PM

e90 doesn't have in wheel tire sensors, only e92! Even the 07 e90s have all shipped so far with the regular ABS system so thats why you don't have a problem. My e92 doesn't have sensors either but I'm in Canada, Canada has no in wheel sensors on any model.

fueledbymetal · 10-27-2006, 06:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arbitrage

e90 doesn't have in wheel tire sensors, only e92! Even the 07 e90s have all shipped so far with the regular ABS system so thats why you don't have a problem.

It would be nice if you're right, but E90Fleet has stated all '07 US e90/91/92 have wheels sensors as does the Tire Rack.

Also, the OP in this thread said his sedan came with sensors and that he swapped them into his new wheels...
http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=33933

FWIW, I'm up to 89 miles without any errors on my "sensorless" wheels

kuthair · 10-27-2006, 08:05 AM

Even tho your wheels dont have the in-wheel sensor, the nice thing about these BMW's is it'll still use the ABS sensors to monitor your tire's pressure like the 06's. Atleast, that's what I got from reading the manual.

arbitrage · 10-27-2006, 08:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fueledbymetal

It would be nice if you're right, but E90Fleet has stated all '07 US e90/91/92 have wheels sensors as does the Tire Rack.

Also, the OP in this thread said his sedan came with sensors and that he swapped them into his new wheels...
http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=33933

FWIW, I'm up to 89 miles without any errors on my "sensorless" wheels

That thread is an e92, not an e90. So far I haven't seen any posts about e90s having sensors in the wheels. But I guess in the end all that matters is that you at least don't have an annoying light!

kuthair · 10-27-2006, 08:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arbitrage

That thread is an e92, not an e90. So far I haven't seen any posts about e90s having sensors in the wheels. But I guess in the end all that matters is that you at least don't have an annoying light!

My E90 manual says I have TPMS and the regular tire sensors.

Gary@TireRack · 10-27-2006, 08:47 AM

So far most 335i sedans have come though with ABS based systems despite what BMW was telling us earlier. All 335i coupes (well, not Canadian ones) have come with the sensors from the factory.

3thirty5 · 10-27-2006, 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Gary@TireRack

So far most 335i sedans have come though with ABS based systems despite what BMW was telling us earlier. All 335i coupes (well, not Canadian ones) have come with the sensors from the factory.

so all Canadian models (E90 & E92) don't have the sensors in the wheels?

kuthair · 10-27-2006, 08:52 AM

Man, I wish I checked the iDrive menu before I dropped my car off...

Can someone with a 335i Sedan check their iDrive for a calibration menu for TPMS.... its in there similar to the calibration for ABS tire sensors. I'm guessing if the calibration menu is there the car will support TPMS whether the tires have the sensors in them or not.

pdtar98 · 10-27-2006, 09:53 AM

I swapped the wheels out on my 328xi coupe and it did turn the warning light on in the dash. The new wheels didnt have the sensores installed so now I live with a flashing yellow light on all the time. Theres no way to reset the TPS if the wheels arent equiped. I will be buying the sensors and installing them soon!

Guess I should have thought of that before I mounted the tires!

kuthair · 10-27-2006, 10:45 AM

^ is your 328xi a coupe or sedan? thx.

fueledbymetal · 10-27-2006, 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arbitrage

That thread is an e92, not an e90.

Doh! My bad

Quote:

Originally Posted by arbitrage

So far I haven't seen any posts about e90s having sensors in the wheels. But I guess in the end all that matters is that you at least don't have an annoying light!

Yeah, that's all that matters to me at the end of the day - I check my pressure regularly myself, so this is technology I can live without

pdtar98 · 10-27-2006, 11:22 PM

Mine is a coupe

Barry626 · 10-27-2006, 11:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fueledbymetal

It would be nice if you're right, but E90Fleet has stated all '07 US e90/91/92 have wheels sensors as does the Tire Rack.

I have 07 335i Sedan and it does not have separate tire senors just like 06 models.

E90Fleet · 10-29-2006, 04:27 AM

Only the US E92 has the in wheel pressure sensors so far ( and some 5 Series )

The E90 will get it some time soon, to comply with the US requirement

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arbitrage First Lieutenant 14 Rep 371 Posts Drives: 07 335i coupe Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Whitehorse Yukon Territory Canada iTrader: (0)	e90 doesn't have in wheel tire sensors, only e92! Even the 07 e90s have all shipped so far with the regular ABS system so thats why you don't have a problem. My e92 doesn't have sensors either but I'm in Canada, Canada has no in wheel sensors on any model. __________________ Ordered June 3 '06: E92 335i Saph Blk, Jade Grey lthr, poplar grey trim, 6spd, Sports Pkg, CA. Update Sept 29 '06: Got the car...It rocks!! Update Sept 08: Moved to Whitehorse and had to buy out of my lease. Miss the car a lot. Will return to BMW family in a couple of years.
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kuthair Captain 11 Rep 613 Posts Drives: 07 335i Sedan 6MT Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Connecticut iTrader: (0)	Even tho your wheels dont have the in-wheel sensor, the nice thing about these BMW's is it'll still use the ABS sensors to monitor your tire's pressure like the 06's. Atleast, that's what I got from reading the manual.
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Gary@TireRack Moderator 369 Rep 4,745 Posts Drives: Formerly 1995 M3 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: South Bend, IN, Tire Rack HQ iTrader: (2)	So far most 335i sedans have come though with ABS based systems despite what BMW was telling us earlier. All 335i coupes (well, not Canadian ones) have come with the sensors from the factory. __________________ Gary. Tire and Wheel Forum Moderator. Tire Rack Sales Rep Gary@Tirerack.com http://www.tirerack.com/a.jsp?a=AH8&url=index.jsp Please refer to 'Gary/E90 Post' as your previous contact when you order online to help support this forum.
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kuthair Captain 11 Rep 613 Posts Drives: 07 335i Sedan 6MT Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Connecticut iTrader: (0)	Man, I wish I checked the iDrive menu before I dropped my car off... Can someone with a 335i Sedan check their iDrive for a calibration menu for TPMS.... its in there similar to the calibration for ABS tire sensors. I'm guessing if the calibration menu is there the car will support TPMS whether the tires have the sensors in them or not.
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pdtar98 Private 8 Rep 60 Posts Drives: 03 330xi,07 328xi, Join Date: May 2006 Location: Denver iTrader: (0)	I swapped the wheels out on my 328xi coupe and it did turn the warning light on in the dash. The new wheels didnt have the sensores installed so now I live with a flashing yellow light on all the time. Theres no way to reset the TPS if the wheels arent equiped. I will be buying the sensors and installing them soon! Guess I should have thought of that before I mounted the tires! __________________
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kuthair Captain 11 Rep 613 Posts Drives: 07 335i Sedan 6MT Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Connecticut iTrader: (0)	^ is your 328xi a coupe or sedan? thx.
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E90Fleet Lieutenant General 1312 Rep 10,185 Posts Drives: BMW Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: South Africa iTrader: (0)	Only the US E92 has the in wheel pressure sensors so far ( and some 5 Series ) The E90 will get it some time soon, to comply with the US requirement __________________ BMW if you are reading, I need a job, Please.
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