Rusty Wheels!!

Serjames · 04-02-2008, 01:52 PM

Would perhaps think twice about painting the calipers...

Unless you use proper "caliper paint" that radiates heat...

It's only a niggle, but potentially normal paint can "retain" the heat and "could" lead to fade, etc....

Probably wouldn't affect 90% of people but if you push it, well...

SJ

scooba0010 · 04-02-2008, 03:41 PM

I had two calls today ,one to dealer and one to BMW hq uk ,to be honest i didnt get any real satisfaction ,My only saving is my friend who has worked there for 24 yrs quit last wk so when i tell the service guy if i dont get 100% exactly what i want that ill be going else where due to my customer loyalty went out the door with jez,I have had my wife tell me they are useless now and how wonderfull they used to be .

I have been buying new BMW since 1993 and i have bought 7 and none have had this issue with rusty hubs to be honest i am more than happy to have a big falling out with them and take my buisness somewhere else but im sure that they are all the same

CD · 04-02-2008, 03:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Serjames

Would perhaps think twice about painting the calipers...

Unless you use proper "caliper paint" that radiates heat...

It's only a niggle, but potentially normal paint can "retain" the heat and "could" lead to fade, etc....

Probably wouldn't affect 90% of people but if you push it, well...

SJ

thanks for the advice

hmm well i did do my 1.20 calipers, they were fine and didnt notice any fade !? this car is heavier and faster i suppose, i should look into some proper stuff this time.

deejaygee · 04-04-2008, 08:53 AM

Well I am well chuffed my car is all booked in for full disc, calipers and brake pad replacement on all four corners all under warrenty.

Either they were quite bad or my constant moaning paid off!!

Z4 Beemer · 04-04-2008, 02:02 PM

I intend to email BMW UK Customer Services with some pictures like the one below to see what their reaction is.

dxb335d · 04-04-2008, 02:03 PM

wana see pic of my hubs?

M3-FAST · 04-04-2008, 02:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Z4 Beemer

I intend to email BMW UK Customer Services with some pictures like the one below to see what their reaction is.

mine look just the same

friends admire the car and alloys, and then comment how crap the hubs look with rust all over 'em

maybe we should have a group email morning,

, give BMW CS some hammer!

Z4 Beemer · 04-04-2008, 02:23 PM

Surely yours don't look too bad with the number of spokes in those big 19" M style alloys??

Mine look quite bad with the amount of space between the 5 big spokes, and I guess Carlo's look much the same as his 5 spokes are even thinner!

I have just sent the email off, with 4 pics attached to see what they say. I haven't mentioned this to the dealers yet, but want to see what HQ say first. I'll let you know.

Update - they have sent me an automatic email back... thanking me for emailing them, and one of their 'executives' will respond shortly. If its urgent, I can phone them!

vivekk · 04-04-2008, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by redE93cab

mine look just the same

friends admire the car and alloys, and then comment how crap the hubs look with rust all over 'em

maybe we should have a group email morning,

, give BMW CS some hammer!

Worth a try, I think.

The worst outcome would be for them to do absolutely nothing, I suppose.

I'll set-up a poll- easier to collect a list of members that way. If you're unhappy about the state of your wheel hubs, then just add to the poll.

We could post photos of our hubs as evidence.

Once there's a sizeable number on there, it can be sent off to BMW UK CS, a bit like a petition, & we'll see how long it takes for them to do sweet FA.

Viv

Z4 Beemer · 04-04-2008, 02:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dxb335d

wana see pic of my hubs?

Yes, go for it. We can use it as more ammunition.

dxb335d · 04-04-2008, 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Z4 Beemer

Surely yours don't look too bad with the number of spokes in those big 19" M style alloys??

Mine look quite bad with the amount of space between the 5 big spokes, and I guess Carlo's look much the same as his 5 spokes are even thinner!

I have just sent the email off, with 4 pics attached to see what they say. I haven't mentioned this to the dealers yet, but want to see what HQ say first. I'll let you know.

Update - they have sent me an automatic email back... thanking me for emailing them, and one of their 'executives' will respond shortly. If its urgent, I can phone them!

Mine look worse......?

I think not my friend

Quote:

Originally Posted by Z4 Beemer

Yes, go for it. We can use it as more ammunition.

Z4 Beemer · 04-04-2008, 02:31 PM

Bloody hell Carlos - thats amazingly rust-free

Are all 4 like that?

vivekk · 04-04-2008, 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dxb335d

Mine look worse......?

I think not my friend

Carl- we can't use that as evidence- you haven't been photochopping that photo, have you?

Here, use this instead, ok.

Viv

M3-FAST · 04-04-2008, 02:56 PM

ha ha nice one Viv!

Yopu obviously have not been reading Carloshasjustbeenrippedoffhavingaserviceandnewdisc sfittedfor£1100 posts

Z4 Beemer · 04-04-2008, 02:57 PM

Excellent Viv - same colour as my old Time Capsule when it was overheating

deejaygee · 04-04-2008, 03:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Z4 Beemer

I intend to email BMW UK Customer Services with some pictures like the one below to see what their reaction is.

There is never an excuse for the rust in my opinion, however yours do not look bad at all compared to mine, and this is why I think they have agreed to replace all parts.

I will take a picture tomorrow to hightlight the severity of my problem.

cheers

SoYank · 04-04-2008, 03:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dxb335d

Mine look worse......?

I think not my friend

Carlos, they're talking about hubs looking bad, not wheels. Get those puppies cleaned up!

M3-FAST · 04-04-2008, 03:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SoYank

Carlos, they're talking about hubs looking bad, not wheels. Get those puppies cleaned up!

He doesn't clean em - just replaces them at regular intervals

SoYank · 04-04-2008, 03:51 PM

I think I'm going with these:

deejaygee · 04-05-2008, 01:34 PM

Right, here's some bad pictures taken by my phone today but it highlights the problem I had with the hubs (discs) and calipers. As i previously stated BMW have agreed to replace all as a goodwill gesture and made it quite clear that the parts are not covered under warrenty.

They have also agreed to replace all brake pads due to the new discs. So it's a result but it took me about 6 months of moaning and complaining & numerous calls to Bracknell to sort out.

Here they are, what are your thoughts?

dxb335d · 04-05-2008, 01:46 PM

They look awful mate, no wonder they are changing them for you!

How will you prevent it happening again?

deejaygee · 04-05-2008, 01:51 PM

I really have no idea mate, any suggestions? Yours seem to have lasted well, any care instructions to give?

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