[Bubbles]

Any interest in a lagfix software solution?

[07-335XI]

more info !!!

[roadkillrob]

Don't most flashes base the code on 29.2 or older, so don't have the lag in them - I know Dinan does that.

[Bubbles]

Originally Posted by roadkillrob

Don't most flashes base the code on 29.2 or older, so don't have the lag in them - I know Dinan does that.

Not sure about other flashes, but Dinan does not impact lag.

[Bubbles]

Originally Posted by 07-335XI

more info !!!

What else do you want to know, it will fix the lag if you require a conversion lag-fix.

[DMETune]

The lag issues in the later software versions are fixed with our tune, but I think Bubbles is talking about an offering that ONLY fixes the lag issue...unless I'm reading this incorrectly.

[E92White]

hell yeah..but would it work with a piggyback ? ex : jb3,procede,etc.

[OpenFlash]

Originally Posted by E92White

hell yeah..but would it work with a piggyback ? ex : jb3,procede,etc.

The PROcede already fixes it. You can still update the DME if you want though. No harm in that. Just don't expect lag to be reduced more.

cheers,
shiv

[BRO]

I had an annoying hesitation shifting between 1st and 2nd (auto) that completely went away with Procede. Dealer was NO HELP!

[CubanJJ09]

i got dinan stg II with the new progman. i thought that took of the lag?

[Bubbles]

Originally Posted by E92White

hell yeah..but would it work with a piggyback ? ex : jb3,procede,etc.

It should, basically brings your ECU to nearly pre-29.2 performance.

Originally Posted by DMETune

The lag issues in the later software versions are fixed with our tune, but I think Bubbles is talking about an offering that ONLY fixes the lag issue...unless I'm reading this incorrectly.

That's it.

Originally Posted by CubanJJ09

i got dinan stg II with the new progman. i thought that took of the lag?

I have Dinan as well, and no it doesn't take care of the lag.

[roadkillrob]

So it would be a reflash that basically makes your car work as a pre 29.2 car, but no performance gain or extra tuning?

What version of BMW's software would it be based on? Is it an updated software version with the wastegate positions put back to pre 29.2 positions?

I could see a market for this for anyone with 29.2 or later that either didn't want a tune, but wanted the lag issue fixed, or find the piggy backs are not fixing the lag well enough, just not sure how much people would be willing to pay - I have pre 29.2, but from what I have heard about the lag (never experienced it), I would definitely pay a few hundred to get it fixed!

[canesr1]

Originally Posted by Bubbles

Any interest in a lagfix software solution?

Bubbles- If you were a girl you would be the biggest d!ck-tease ever!- no offense

[Bubbles]

Originally Posted by roadkillrob

So it would be a reflash that basically makes your car work as a pre 29.2 car, but no performance gain or extra tuning?

What version of BMW's software would it be based on? Is it an updated software version with the wastegate positions put back to pre 29.2 positions?

I could see a market for this for anyone with 29.2 or later that either didn't want a tune, but wanted the lag issue fixed, or find the piggy backs are not fixing the lag well enough, just not sure how much people would be willing to pay - I have pre 29.2, but from what I have heard about the lag (never experienced it), I would definitely pay a few hundred to get it fixed!

It would only impact the version you are currently running post 2.32.1. It would be a substitute for the "Conversion procedure" BMW runs for it's lag-fix.

Originally Posted by canesr1

Bubbles- If you were a girl you would be the biggest d!ck-tease ever!- no offense

Thank you

[bimmerlex]

Around how much will it cost?

[cvc 22349a]

Has anyone had the dealer perform the 'wastegate valve conversion' using ista? Wouldn't this be the same thing as what's being mentioned here? BMW claims this will resolve the 'lag' problem which is a result of s/w updates.
I was recently updated to ista 2.33.0 and now have significantly less torque at lower rpm's and am considering the 'wastegate valve conversion'. However, from what I've read, if the wastegate actuators begin ticking after you request the conversion, BMW's position is that you're on your own.
Anyone have experience with this?

[ezatnova]

Hope this isn't taking things too OT, but I see you sort of bring this up anyway. So why do this rather than going the route of getting version 32+ from the dealer, with the lag fix built right in? Sure, there are the handful of owners who have cars built in the "limbo" time line where BMW says they are fine and won't offer the update, but the owner says they DO have lag, etc etc, but the vast majority were like me where we can just go get the new software at the dealer and things are very much improved.

To piggyback off of that thought, with whatever you may be dabbling in, it sounds like you can read/see/interpret some "values" in this so called "wastegate valve conversion" section of DME code. Is that the case? What I'm getting at is, can you (or whoever you are working with) "read" that section of code pre 29.2 car, a 29.2 car, and a "fixed" 32+ car and tell us once and for all the differences/values involved in each? I, like many others, feel like my car is 90+% fixed with the version 32.0.2 that I got in late February, but is still not quite identical to my old version 27 that my car came with.

Thx!

[Bubbles]

Originally Posted by bimmerlex

Around how much will it cost?

Don't know yet. But this is not a money maker, just another option.

Originally Posted by ezatnova

Hope this isn't taking things too OT, but I see you sort of bring this up anyway. So why do this rather than going the route of getting version 32+ from the dealer, with the lag fix built right in? Sure, there are the handful of owners who have cars built in the "limbo" time line where BMW says they are fine and won't offer the update, but the owner says they DO have lag, etc etc, but the vast majority were like me where we can just go get the new software at the dealer and things are very much improved.

To piggyback off of that thought, with whatever you may be dabbling in, it sounds like you can read/see/interpret some "values" in this so called "wastegate valve conversion" section of DME code. Is that the case? What I'm getting at is, can you (or whoever you are working with) "read" that section of code pre 29.2 car, a 29.2 car, and a "fixed" 32+ car and tell us once and for all the differences/values involved in each? I, like many others, feel like my car is 90+% fixed with the version 32.0.2 that I got in late February, but is still not quite identical to my old version 27 that my car came with.

Thx!

If you can get if from the dealer, you should. This would be just another option.

As far a difference in code between the programs versions, it is unlikely that information would be released.

For the record, my car has never felt as powerful/instant-on as it was with progman 25.xx and the Flash Classic.

[DMETune]

I certainly see the value in fixing the lag issue on the tons of vehicles with the newer (but not newest) software. One question, though: If you can modify the wastegate duty tables to resolve the lag, why not just do a proper tune while you're in there?

[smdandb2]

Sometimes I wish I had an N54 powered car so I can feel this apparent lag for myself.

I just laugh at some of these posts, because it sounds like you guys have big single Supra style lag now, lol.

Continue on!

[Lotus99]

BMW's lag fix is only for DME80 cars, right?

Is it confirmed that DME81 cars don't have lag? I swear I do! I've got a May 08 build. Or am I just imagining it?

[Bubbles]

Originally Posted by DMETune

I certainly see the value in fixing the lag issue on the tons of vehicles with the newer (but not newest) software. One question, though: If you can modify the wastegate duty tables to resolve the lag, why not just do a proper tune while you're in there?

Just an option, but I see you point.

Originally Posted by Lotus99

BMW's lag fix is only for DME80 cars, right?

Is it confirmed that DME81 cars don't have lag? I swear I do! I've got a May 08 build. Or am I just imagining it?

It depends who you ask.