Ballpark 1/4 with Tune and otherwise stock

D335I · 03-25-2010, 11:46 PM

I know a lot of things come into play but looking for ballpark 1/4 times with Tune and otherwise completely stock, 6MT and decent/average driver on 91 octane.

JB3 2.0
GIAC S1
V4

Thanks,

Boost Gomez · 03-26-2010, 12:46 AM

12.8 at 109 mph would be respectable.

RUS0628 · 03-26-2010, 01:39 AM

With 100 octane and map 7 on JB3 possible 12.2

Tiago@VRSF · 03-26-2010, 02:05 AM

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Originally Posted by RUS0628

With 100 octane and map 7 on JB3 possible 12.2

That's assuming there's a REALLY good driver. Stock RFT's with an open dif = launch disaster.

hotrod182 · 03-26-2010, 03:08 AM

I think its possible with some MS109, or with meth, DCI, +DPs?

I think sometimes people overestimate the handicap the manual has over the automatic, but it does vary much more with the skill of the driver. I have a steptronic, but here are my results that I just got tonight while testing on map#1 (custom), on 91 oct+meth+dci+dps

Also else totally stock down to the RFTs and open diff.

12.3 @ 119.6mph,
0-60: 4.0 sec

This is a 2.1 sec 60' with a no warmup burn out 2nd gear launch.

I'm not sure how much the DPs help. I plan on removing them this weekend to test their effectiveness.

GAaaAR · 03-26-2010, 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Boost Gomez

12.8 at 109 mph would be respectable.

+1 if you are running 93 octane on Jb3 2.0 Map 5, you may be able to do 12.8 @ 111-112 mph under ideal conditions. But 91 octane is only Map 3.

WCM3 · 03-26-2010, 10:02 AM

What rpm have you guys been launching at that run in the 12s with JB3 Map 5?

GeorgiaTech335coupe · 03-26-2010, 10:33 AM

Don't expect to trap over 109. I can guarantee you won't unless it is very cold out. Realistic expectations would be high 12s (probably not in a MT with an inexperienced driver) at around 107-108. Thats from my experience seeing about 10-15 other 335s with similar mods.

GeorgiaTech335coupe · 03-26-2010, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by hotrod182

I think its possible with some MS109, or with meth, DCI, +DPs?

I think sometimes people overestimate the handicap the manual has over the automatic, but it does vary much more with the skill of the driver. I have a steptronic, but here are my results that I just got tonight while testing on map#1 (custom), on 91 oct+meth+dci+dps

Also else totally stock down to the RFTs and open diff.

12.3 @ 119.6mph,
0-60: 4.0 sec

This is a 2.1 sec 60' with a no warmup burn out 2nd gear launch.

I'm not sure how much the DPs help. I plan on removing them this weekend to test their effectiveness.

For the short amount of time I have had a Vbox, I have noticed it is much, much easier to pull good 60' on the street compared to the strip in a MT.

Syndicategt · 03-26-2010, 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by GAaaAR

+1 if you are running 93 octane on Jb3 2.0 Map 5, you may be able to do 12.8 @ 111-112 mph under ideal conditions. But 91 octane is only Map 3.

There are plenty of us CA guys running 91 oct and map 5 or 7. You need to have supporting mods and the cooler the weather, the better. I daily drive map 5 with 91 oct

kennejp · 03-26-2010, 12:35 PM

Well what I dont understand is the tuned 335s are walking new m3s all over the place and they are putting down quite a bit more power but the m3 runs it in 12.7 at 113 so shouldnt the tuned 335 be quicker then that?

themyst · 03-26-2010, 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by D335I

I know a lot of things come into play but looking for ballpark 1/4 times with Tune and otherwise completely stock, 6MT and decent/average driver on 91 octane.

JB3 2.0
GIAC S1
V4

Thanks,

You're looking low 13's due to traction and CDV messing up your shifts. Assuming 91 octane tune only, stock RFTs. 6MTs and tunes don't mix without drag radials.

You can break 12's with race gas though.

themyst · 03-26-2010, 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by D335I

I know a lot of things come into play but looking for ballpark 1/4 times with Tune and otherwise completely stock, 6MT and decent/average driver on 91 octane.

JB3 2.0
GIAC S1
V4

Thanks,

You're looking low 13's due to traction and CDV messing up your shifts. Assuming 91 octane tune only, stock RFTs. 6MTs and tunes don't mix without drag radials.

You can break 12's with race gas though.

themyst · 03-26-2010, 02:30 PM

The discussion is 6MT 335i. From a roll, it is possible, but from a dig, the 6MT on street tires is near impossible to be consistent with. Especially tune only RFTs.

GeorgiaTech335coupe · 03-26-2010, 02:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kennejp

Well what I dont understand is the tuned 335s are walking new m3s all over the place and they are putting down quite a bit more power but the m3 runs it in 12.7 at 113 so shouldnt the tuned 335 be quicker then that?

Have you actually seen that or just going by what you heard? None of the M3s I have seen at the strip come close to that mph stock.

HPFREAK · 03-26-2010, 06:29 PM

I plan on doing some testing with my Perf Box this weekend. So far the best 0-60 I have managed on map 5 91 oct everything else stock on my AT 135i is 4.5sec. The best 60-100 I have seen is 5.5 but I started that run at 57mph so it had very little time to get to full steam before hitting 60. It does take a lot of practice to get good with launching and shifting at the right places for maximum results.

Sal Collaziano · 03-26-2010, 10:58 PM

I have an automatic with JB3 1.4 on map 5, DCI and non-runflats and I launched at somewhere between 1500-2000 RPM and got a 12.99 in the 1/4 mile. It was my first drag strip race ever...

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Originally Posted by WCM3

What rpm have you guys been launching at that run in the 12s with JB3 Map 5?

themyst · 03-27-2010, 07:36 AM

2000 rpm sounds about right for street tires on 6MT. 3000-4000 on drag radials.

kennejp · 03-27-2010, 09:35 AM

No I havent seen the m3 trap at that personally, I was just going at what I think motortrend rated it at. To me a tuned/dci 335 feels alot faster then the m3's I have driven. Might be because of the low-end torque with the tuned 335s.

hotrod182 · 03-27-2010, 10:46 AM

Well, like I said, I was going to De-Mod the car a little by removing the down pipes, to evaluate the performance decrease. The car seems to have more lag, but surprisingly, trap speeds are still good! With the extra lag, it is actually a little harder to modulate wheel spin, because you tend to give it more throttle now off the line.

So 118mph traps on JB3, 91 oct+meth+DCI. All else bone stock.

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hotrod182 . 809 Rep 3,974 Posts Drives: 2023 i4 M50 Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: California iTrader: (0)	I think its possible with some MS109, or with meth, DCI, +DPs? I think sometimes people overestimate the handicap the manual has over the automatic, but it does vary much more with the skill of the driver. I have a steptronic, but here are my results that I just got tonight while testing on map#1 (custom), on 91 oct+meth+dci+dps Also else totally stock down to the RFTs and open diff. 12.3 @ 119.6mph, 0-60: 4.0 sec This is a 2.1 sec 60' with a no warmup burn out 2nd gear launch. I'm not sure how much the DPs help. I plan on removing them this weekend to test their effectiveness. Attached Images
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GeorgiaTech335coupe Lieutenant Colonel 76 Rep 1,883 Posts Drives: Black BMW 335i coupe Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: USA iTrader: (0)	Don't expect to trap over 109. I can guarantee you won't unless it is very cold out. Realistic expectations would be high 12s (probably not in a MT with an inexperienced driver) at around 107-108. Thats from my experience seeing about 10-15 other 335s with similar mods. __________________ Legal Disclaimer: Anything I or anyone else says about my vehicle on this website(e90post.com or any affiliated or nonaffiliated sites), pertaining to modifications, is only to gain acceptance from my/our peers, and does not actually represent anything actually existing on my car, and thus, cannot be held against me in any issues, i.e. warranty claims, that may arise.
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kennejp First Lieutenant 39 Rep 348 Posts Drives: 335i Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: TN iTrader: (2)	Well what I dont understand is the tuned 335s are walking new m3s all over the place and they are putting down quite a bit more power but the m3 runs it in 12.7 at 113 so shouldnt the tuned 335 be quicker then that?
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themyst Major General 177 Rep 6,631 Posts Drives: '16 MK7 GTI Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: NYC iTrader: (8)	The discussion is 6MT 335i. From a roll, it is possible, but from a dig, the 6MT on street tires is near impossible to be consistent with. Especially tune only RFTs. __________________ E90 LCI N54 6AT
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HPFREAK Lieutenant Colonel 63 Rep 1,884 Posts Drives: C6 ZO6 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Socal iTrader: (8)	I plan on doing some testing with my Perf Box this weekend. So far the best 0-60 I have managed on map 5 91 oct everything else stock on my AT 135i is 4.5sec. The best 60-100 I have seen is 5.5 but I started that run at 57mph so it had very little time to get to full steam before hitting 60. It does take a lot of practice to get good with launching and shifting at the right places for maximum results.
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themyst Major General 177 Rep 6,631 Posts Drives: '16 MK7 GTI Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: NYC iTrader: (8)	2000 rpm sounds about right for street tires on 6MT. 3000-4000 on drag radials. __________________ E90 LCI N54 6AT
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kennejp First Lieutenant 39 Rep 348 Posts Drives: 335i Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: TN iTrader: (2)	No I havent seen the m3 trap at that personally, I was just going at what I think motortrend rated it at. To me a tuned/dci 335 feels alot faster then the m3's I have driven. Might be because of the low-end torque with the tuned 335s.
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hotrod182 . 809 Rep 3,974 Posts Drives: 2023 i4 M50 Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: California iTrader: (0)	Well, like I said, I was going to De-Mod the car a little by removing the down pipes, to evaluate the performance decrease. The car seems to have more lag, but surprisingly, trap speeds are still good! With the extra lag, it is actually a little harder to modulate wheel spin, because you tend to give it more throttle now off the line. So 118mph traps on JB3, 91 oct+meth+DCI. All else bone stock. Attached Images __________________ 2011 Alpine 335d M-Sport 12.34 @ 110.48mph 2019 i3s Terra, 2008 Black 335i Sedan. 11.11@ 129.47 mph 2008 Monaco Blue JB3 2.0 335i Coupe. 11.33 @ 132.77 mph, 60-130mph: 6.95 seconds 2023 i4 M50 11.48 @ 121.56mph, 3.43 0-60 (dragy)
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