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      02-02-2012, 01:41 PM   #23
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facebook will be done 3 years from now...theyre just trying to get some last minute money for something else...think about it like this- how many people tell themselves each day that they wanna close their facebook or that they hate the bs on facebook....another website will come out where they'll have a cool slogan or saying and everyone will hop on that bandwagon.
wrong, because they're being forced to go public.

Facebook was forced to file to go public because it ran up against the limits of the 500-shareholder rule. Private companies with more than $10 million in assets are required to file detailed financials with the Securities and Exchange Commission once they exceed 500 stockholders.
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wrong, because they're being forced to go public.

Facebook was forced to file to go public because it ran up against the limits of the 500-shareholder rule. Private companies with more than $10 million in assets are required to file detailed financials with the Securities and Exchange Commission once they exceed 500 stockholders.
Technically you're wrong too. facebook was givin an exemption from taht rule in 2008, they surpassed the 500 invester rule a long long time ago.

People dont seem to realize that facebook isnt JUST a social network. Its grown into one of the biggest tech companies in the world. 1/7th of the worlds population uses it. Do you really think thats going to go away in 3 years??

Facebook isnt just about writing on someones wall and someone writing back, thats not their mission. there mission is seamless sharing, and thats were the internet is heading, and facebook is at that forefront of that

They are not as big as google yet but they are getting there, Facebook now has more profit then google did when it went public and its only going to grow once they refine there monotizing stratagies. They have already made nearly double the revenue that Amazon did in 2011.

Facebook has balls and their using them lol

btw if you dont beleive me its all in the S-1 filing to the SEC, check it out.
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I guess I am buying alot of it lol
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As if any of us can even get in on the IPO - Public offering does not mean any of us common folk can get in on it before the large corps/capital ventures/big $$$ firms snatch up all the IPO stock...gut it, shred it up, and sell for the profit we would all hope to make. Nope - we common folk get common stock. Expect maybe 5% growth the first yea for common stock. Nothing crazy.
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They have already made nearly double the revenue that Amazon did in 2011.
Where did you find this out?
All I saw was for '08, '09 & '10
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im gonna buy facebook stock and then go click on ads all day and watch the money pile up
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As if any of us can even get in on the IPO - Public offering does not mean any of us common folk can get in on it before the large corps/capital ventures/big $$$ firms snatch up all the IPO stock...gut it, shred it up, and sell for the profit we would all hope to make. Nope - we common folk get common stock. Expect maybe 5% growth the first yea for common stock. Nothing crazy.

yup. Such is what we saw with linkedIN. The firms were the ones who made profits..
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Where did you find this out?
All I saw was for '08, '09 & '10
my bad, I got that snippit of info from MG seigler's blog heres the post:

http://parislemon.com/post/168885921...oming-facebook

hes a well regarded tech writer.

he also gives some other nice info on fathoming what exactly is facebook.
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I have a friend who got a job at Facebook when they first were getting started. She knows Mark and everything. They offered their employees a ton of stock and she bought some. Last time I checked she had around 60,000 shares. I haven't asked her but i'm sure there are stipulations with her just selling those once the shares go public. Anyone know how this usually works?
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I have a friend who got a job at Facebook when they first were getting started. She knows Mark and everything. They offered their employees a ton of stock and she bought some. Last time I checked she had around 60,000 shares. I haven't asked her but i'm sure there are stipulations with her just selling those once the shares go public. Anyone know how this usually works?
Depending on what type of shares your friend has (vested vs common vs non vested etc) it mandates when he or she can sell.

For example if you got 60,000 shares vested for 5 years then you can sell after 5 years of employment ... If you get fired you could lose the shares ... I dnt exactly know how everything works but this should answer your question.

It also depends wen your friend started working there. If your friend came in at a low valuation then that 60,000 shares is very very nice.. Heck even now it's nice ... Your friends lucky haha

To put it in perspective ... Peter Thiel was on the first investors in Facebook his initial investment was around $500,000 I believe... He owns around 2.2 million shares ? If fb goes public at a 100 billion dollar valuation .. Those shares would be worth around 2.5 billion ? (all these numbers are rounded off, I don't know the exact penny.)
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Well, It's pretty hard to get into IPOs... When we can get in, people are already pumping and dumping it.
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If you really want to be a "long term" investor in FB, just ignore the noise and overlook the stock at the get go. If LNKD serves as an example, the stock priced at 40, opened up on IPO day to retail at 80, ran to 122.70 that same day and is now trading in the 70's after all this time.

DO NOT BUY IT on day 1 if you intend on holding. Also, to the guy that talked about the options on it, when the options open up for trading, you realize they're going to be dumb expensive because of the demand. IV is gonna be through the roof. You're better off playing the common until that dies down.

With that said, I plan on trading it and simply playing the price action around the hype. Stay away from the noise at first.

Also, whoever mentioned GSVC has a point. I've been in and out of that name a few times. It is also not one to buy and hold.

There are a lot of derivative plays on facebook that have established prices already and are in clear trends etc. Check out the recent charts on SINA, RENN, QPSA, all of them move on FB hype
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Also, you need to understand that this first offering is not a very big one. There is going to be scarce supply and clearly with retail investors all buzzing about here, there are going to be serious valuation problems. It will open at least with a 100% markup to retail once the IPO starts trading. If you're lucky enough to have a 7 figure account with Morgan Stanley and can grab some at IPO price, go for it. Otherwise, it is a trade only
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too many risk factors, you kiddin! it's going to faceplant mark my words.
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whos got the final answer should i pull out a 100k home equ for facebook or not? running out of time...
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1/7 of the world is on Facebook but how many are actually active? I gotta tell ya, out of the 400+ "friends" I have, only a handful are active. The rest are just lurkers. As far as advertising goes, I don't know who the hell clicks on the ads. I guess some people do. As for games, I've seen a huge drop, at least from my friends, in activity with the games, requests to be added on the games, etc. I wouldn't drop money on Facebook. With all the ongoing privacy concerns, more and more people on my friends list are already dropping friends, tightening up security and limiting what information they have on their profiles.

With the company going public, Facebook will need to deliver results. The only way they can deliver results is to share more of their users' information and prove that the ads are working. The more Facebook shares user info, the more people will lock down their profiles and/or just leave. My opinion is that this is already Facebook's peak and it is all downhill from here. These private equity firms that have invested in Facebook will cash out slowly, take their huge profits and little private investors will be left holding worthless shares or shares much lower in value than initially offered.
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1/7 of the world is on Facebook but how many are actually active? I gotta tell ya, out of the 400+ "friends" I have, only a handful are active. The rest are just lurkers. As far as advertising goes, I don't know who the hell clicks on the ads. I guess some people do. As for games, I've seen a huge drop, at least from my friends, in activity with the games, requests to be added on the games, etc. I wouldn't drop money on Facebook. With all the ongoing privacy concerns, more and more people on my friends list are already dropping friends, tightening up security and limiting what information they have on their profiles.

With the company going public, Facebook will need to deliver results. The only way they can deliver results is to share more of their users' information and prove that the ads are working. The more Facebook shares user info, the more people will lock down their profiles and/or just leave. My opinion is that this is already Facebook's peak and it is all downhill from here. These private equity firms that have invested in Facebook will cash out slowly, take their huge profits and little private investors will be left holding worthless shares or shares much lower in value than initially offered.
im going to have to disagree, 850million people use facebook a month, and According to their metrics half of those users come back everyday. Everyone gives facebook shit for changing their product, and or changing some feature that people dont like but they are doing something right. and they have balls enough to change it, even with all the backlash on new features or redesigns people keep signing up. Soon they'll be at 1 billion users worldwide. that's insane numbers.

as for the ads you personally might not click on it, but they way the ads work is they target specific users through interest and stuff. so those users are more likely to click on the ad and follow through.

for games, Zynga and many other companies such as Vostu, etc.. have built a HUGE business off of the facebook API, games arent dead, just their feed doesnt go into you news feed as often.

facebooks technically good for the economy, it creates jobs and stimulates innovation. i wouldn't underestimate them.

their trading on the private market right now at a valuation of 95~ billion.
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facebook will be done 3 years from now...theyre just trying to get some last minute money for something else...think about it like this- how many people tell themselves each day that they wanna close their facebook or that they hate the bs on facebook....another website will come out where they'll have a cool slogan or saying and everyone will hop on that bandwagon.
so short the stock
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all of you guys that think facebook will die in a few years are crazy. You most likely dont use facebook enough to know how it is actually linked to everything else you use...
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I'm buying into mutual funds which have private ownership in the stock before IPO...best bet. Safe bet. No monster gains, but gains for SURE.
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