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12-02-2010, 12:17 PM | #23 |
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Ha ha, note the guy has a 328i E92. Sounds like 335 envy to me...
Ok tell me what engine failures he is talking about, and name one way his choice 328i is superior to a 335, just one. Didn't think so..
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12-02-2010, 01:03 PM | #24 |
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He's likely referring to the fuel pump issues. IMHO, that's the only advantage the 328 has on the 335. However, that's a pretty big issue and one of the main reasons I'm considering picking up a M3 instead of a 335 when I replace my current car in Oct.
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12-02-2010, 01:16 PM | #26 | |
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2002Tii are going for $10,000 to $20,000 ($25,000 in top condition) which is less than the least expensive 2011 3 Series. First Generation M3 are not going for anything close to what a new M3 sells for, The M3 lightweight is hard to determine the value of since less than 100 of then made it to the US, I have not seen one go for more thant he price of a new M3 and if it was going to be compared to any new model it would probably be the M3 GTS and they are not worth anuthing close to the value of the M3 GTS. The 2800/3.0 CS coupes are not worth as much as a new 6 Series coupe. M1s have sold for as much as $250,000. I am not sure if there is an equielent 2011 model but in any case they are worth more than any current BMW model and more than they sold for new so the M1 is an exception to my statement. So while a number of BMW models are collectible and in my opinion very desirable they are in many cases affordably and reasonably priced (and some are probably underpriced) and represent very good value to collectors. CA
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12-02-2010, 01:54 PM | #28 |
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Hmm... This is just a bit surprising to me.
While the 335is is an amazing car... It's somewhat plentiful. I wonder if it will cost more to insure this car vs 335i |
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12-02-2010, 01:57 PM | #29 |
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+1, there are LOTS if 335is's out there, I get a call every week from my dealer trying to sell me one. Maybe if someone goes around and buys them ALL and hides them... ~Frost
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Collector car value is not necessarily tied to rarity. For example a 1960s Mustang, which was a very common car, can be worth more than a 1960s Facel Vega HK500 which is a very rare car, CA
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12-02-2010, 02:08 PM | #32 |
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I don't know. The E90/E92 are so plentiful right now, I think that will ultimately detract from the car as a "collectible".
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12-02-2010, 02:39 PM | #33 |
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While I don't see the 335is as "plentiful" relative to other non-limited production passenger sport coupes, it is much more rare than any other E9x of any kind, M3's included. What I think is that it will always fetch a higher selling price than any other 335i, but it probably won't ever be worth more than it stickered for (inflation adjusted), unless someone never drove it and sold one at auction in 2035. You can collect anything you want, but I'm not sure how rare this car will be. I'd actually be interested in knowing how many they produce in total vs a car like the RS4 which is pretty limited.
I think the most current true collector car to be that BMW has made is the E46 M3 CSL. I'd also say the E36 M3 LTW is in the collectible category, as is the E36 M3 EVO. |
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12-02-2010, 03:58 PM | #36 |
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I think it will be. I am biased because I own the car, but If i am 50, and having money to buy one of these, I will pay top dollar to have a mint version one in my garage. Along with an M3 CSL or M3 Competition package.
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I disagree with the Mustang, Challenger, and Camaro thing. These new versions will never become collectable. Thye make too many of them. Drive by any dealer and see the Challengers lined up in endless rows. All these remakes did was drive up values for originals. I know I would take an original 70 Challenger Hemi over that butchered Sedan based shit anyday.
As for BMW , I think one model that has obtained collector status is the bubble car. I seen two of them sell at BJ this past Jan. in the mid $40's. Looks like that car was a pretty smart investment to me. I wish I could go back and by a ton of them for the $600.00 bucks they cost when new. |
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I own a 335is, the car is epic, but there is no validity in this list whatsoever when you consider what else is on there. The last N54 is certainly not enough to justify it being on that list, however its performance is exquisitely flirty with that of the current M3 I must say (having driven both)
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As far as investments go a 1964 Ferrari 350GTO at $30,000,000 is worth about 1600 times its original price of $16,000. The BMW Isetta bubble car at $40,000 is worth 66 times its orginal price. So the BMW Isetta went up in value by $39,400 and the Ferrari went up in value by $29,984,000. You would have to have bought 762 Isettas for $600 and sold them for $40,000 to equal the appreciation of a single Ferrari GTO. I suspect that the cost of storing 1 GTO fr 40 years would be a lot less than the cost of storing 762 BMW Isettas CA
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not to mention mclaren f1's and tons of rare cars Quote:
and e30 M3's in pristine condition are worth well into the $30k's, and the value is still going up While it may not command the ~$65k that an e9x m3 commands, it is still doing very well, and valued, at least among BMW enthusiasts, are revered as rare and collectible This also brings up the point of what is collectible Old muscle cars maybe collectible to people who are into muscle cars, but to me, there is very little appeal to a '69 boss GTO versus a pristine e30 m3 just my 2 cents
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The prices in the collector car market are based on supply and demand. I, for instance, have no particular interest in a1970 Hemi-Cuda but there are rnough people with money who desire them to push the prices up to 7 figures. The Z8 is much more appealing to me than a Hemi-Cuda but in terms of value there is no contest. BTW there is no such thing as a Boss GTO but there was a GTO Judge, CA
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12-02-2010, 08:02 PM | #44 |
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I was going by the article that simply said "Today new cars, tomorrow's collectibles" if you actually clicked the link. The old M3 you picked is not one of today's new cars and both SUV/SAVs you cited are not cars period. So sticking with their article's criteria of Today's New cars, BMW may not be making another four door M3 and if they do, it certainly won't be powered by a NA V8 motor.
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