v4beta log

OpenFlash · 01-06-2010, 07:59 PM

Hi guys,
Been testing the newest version of the v4 beta software. It's a bit more complete than the version that I've emailed to a few people. No new features really. Just more functional load targeting/boost control logic. Here's an example of what it does now in a 2nd thru 4 gear run on a nice flat road. Again, this is running 14-15psi on 91oct. No methanol. No race gas. Full Stg 3 car 6MT.

60-100mph time of 3.96s seconds with a shift (starting in 2nd). This is with no add-on "shift delay fix" or "bogfix". This is just our new standard boost control system. There is no signal clamping or fixed DC% output. You'll notice that it maintains 10psi between shifts with moderately quick shifting (0.45s). Unlike v3, it doesn't require super quick shifting (0.3-.35s) to activate. Nor does it require full throttle lifts to trigger. In fact, if you do a partial lift (not shown), neither the DME nor the car will protest with throttle closure or limps unlike it would without v4. You'll just hold even more boost between shifts just as you would in a normal turbo engine devoid of torque limiting nannies.

I'll be sending this version of the firmware/map to a few beta testers tomorrow. Expect wide release of 6MT maps next week.

Cheers,
Shiv

ridin135 · 01-06-2010, 08:15 PM

3.96 is fast especially without meth or race gas I am pretty sure that is close to hotrods times with meth. How accurate is that compared to vbox times, also could you do some 60-130 runs.

scottp999 · 01-06-2010, 08:25 PM

Looks fantastic. When you release the maps and firmware will we get the new user software with the 4 maps?

OpenFlash · 01-06-2010, 08:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ridin135

3.96 is fast especially without meth or race gas I am pretty sure that is close to hotrods times with meth. How accurate is that compared to vbox times, also could you do some 60-130 runs.

The speed reading is accurate to +/-1 mph on my car. Confirmed with radar gun at Road&Track magazine testing. Absolute accuracy depends on tread depth/rolling diameter of the wheel/tires. So yes, pretty darn accurate. Running up to 130 takes some planning. Not something I can do on my little test road.

Shiv

cocoturkey · 01-06-2010, 08:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

I'll be sending this version of the firmware/map to a few beta testers tomorrow. Expect wide release of 6MT maps next week.

Cheers,
Shiv

so... should we expect wide release of V4 6AT maps and firmware two weeks after next week? i can't wait... ^^

jpsimon · 01-06-2010, 09:18 PM

I haven't ever wanted the general population to run something so bad. I'm just excited for the community as a whole to run this, it's just that good.

TMR · 01-06-2010, 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by jpsimon

I haven't ever wanted the general population to run something so bad. I'm just excited for the community as a whole to run this, it's just that good.

I completely agree. V4 is that good.

dtp3347 · 01-06-2010, 09:33 PM

shut up already gah

XPO186 · 01-06-2010, 09:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

Hi guys,
Been testing the newest version of the v4 beta software. It's a bit more complete than the version that I've emailed to a few people. No new features really. Just more functional load targeting/boost control logic. Here's an example of what it does now in a 2nd thru 4 gear run on a nice flat road. Again, this is running 14-15psi on 91oct. No methanol. No race gas. Full Stg 3 car 6MT.

60-100mph time of 3.96s seconds with a shift (starting in 2nd). This is with no add-on "shift delay fix" or "bogfix". This is just our new standard boost control system. There is no signal clamping or fixed DC% output. You'll notice that it maintains 10psi between shifts with moderately quick shifting (0.45s). Unlike v3, it doesn't require super quick shifting (0.3-.35s) to activate. Nor does it require full throttle lifts to trigger. In fact, if you do a partial lift (not shown), neither the DME nor the car will protest with throttle closure or limps unlike it would without v4. You'll just hold even more boost between shifts just as you would in a normal turbo engine devoid of torque limiting nannies.

I'll be sending this version of the firmware/map to a few beta testers tomorrow. Expect wide release of 6MT maps next week.

Cheers,
Shiv

IT'S A CELEBRATION BITCHES!!!

prich2004 · 01-06-2010, 10:10 PM

Not going to lie...kinda excited about this. Those data logs keep looking better and better!!

dmurray14 · 01-06-2010, 10:57 PM

Awesome! In for beta testing!

StartupJunkie · 01-06-2010, 11:15 PM

6AT will be coming guys ... hehehe!!

maui86 · 01-07-2010, 05:32 AM

when you do the wide release for the 6mt next week, will it have the "shift-delay fix" activated as well?

teri

scalbert · 01-07-2010, 08:10 AM

What was the DTC status on this log? It looks like you lost a little traction after throttle application in 2nd.

Anyway, looks good.

scalbert · 01-07-2010, 08:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dtp3347

shut up already gah

Just head a few miles west and I can let you take a drive.

Glowin · 01-07-2010, 12:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scottp999

Looks fantastic. When you release the maps and firmware will we get the new user software with the 4 maps?

+1

SlicktopTTZ · 01-07-2010, 12:14 PM

Looks like I am going to be purchasing a PROcede soon.

SIEN · 01-07-2010, 01:33 PM

Great work Shiv!

R1000K3 · 01-07-2010, 01:38 PM

Good news Shiv, I couldn't be more happy being a Procede owner.

boxter · 01-07-2010, 01:57 PM

Hi Shiv,

Has new v4 improvements regarding injection strategy, for example single, double or triple injection event? I always noticed (stock and Procede) different responses on account of these different modes of injection.

The last maps v3 improved the response regarding timing, closure of throttle. But I think that N54 changes a lot when it alternates between single, double or triple injection event. Injection of the fuel can take place in up to 3 individual injections, this has the effect of both increasing power output and saving fuel.

Thanks

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ridin135 Colonel 131 Rep 2,408 Posts Drives: Depends on the day Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Greenville iTrader: (7)	3.96 is fast especially without meth or race gas I am pretty sure that is close to hotrods times with meth. How accurate is that compared to vbox times, also could you do some 60-130 runs.
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scottp999 Brigadier General 133 Rep 4,764 Posts Drives: 4runner SR5 Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: MD iTrader: (2) Garage List 2007 BMW 335 [9.00]	Looks fantastic. When you release the maps and firmware will we get the new user software with the 4 maps?
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jpsimon Team Zissou 3065 Rep 10,197 Posts Drives: 2022 AWD M3 Comp - SMB Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: CT iTrader: (7)	I haven't ever wanted the general population to run something so bad. I'm just excited for the community as a whole to run this, it's just that good.
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dtp3347 Lieutenant 53 Rep 488 Posts Drives: Silver E92 335i Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Alpharetta, Ga iTrader: (2)	shut up already gah
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prich2004 Private First Class 2 Rep 124 Posts Drives: E90 335i Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Houston iTrader: (0) Garage List 2008 E90 335i [0.00]	Not going to lie...kinda excited about this. Those data logs keep looking better and better!! __________________ *E90 335i \| Metallic Graphite \| AT Step \| Sport \| Premium \| Satellite \| iPod \| Ceramic Tint \| PROcede V4 \| BMS DCI*
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dmurray14 The Stig 31 Rep 1,232 Posts Drives: Quickly Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: US iTrader: (1)	Awesome! In for beta testing! __________________
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StartupJunkie First Lieutenant 30 Rep 314 Posts Drives: 07 BMW 335i Sedan+2 Baby Seats Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: SF South Bay Area, CA iTrader: (0)	6AT will be coming guys ... hehehe!! __________________ 11.535@124.423mph (1.641 60') - AutoTune 7-27, Race+Meth, Best ET w/ only 80% throttle 1st and 2nd 11.647@121.356mph (1.590 60') - AutoTune (beta pre-5-15), Race Gas, No METH Perf Mods: Vishnu PROcede Rev3 v5, Vishnu PWM Meth Kit, AR Design DPs, AE Exhaust, Helix FMIC, Vishnu DCI, Forge DV, WaveTrac LSD (Best Trap - 124.665mph)
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maui86 Captain 37 Rep 738 Posts Drives: 07 335i Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: paradise iTrader: (1)	when you do the wide release for the 6mt next week, will it have the "shift-delay fix" activated as well? teri __________________ http://videos.streetfire.net/video/s...rays_37268.htm gotta do what i gotta do to get them donuts 04 spec-v: rip dec07
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scalbert Major General 153 Rep 5,780 Posts Drives: '13 S4, '15 Q7 Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Woodstock, GA iTrader: (8)	What was the DTC status on this log? It looks like you lost a little traction after throttle application in 2nd. Anyway, looks good.
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SlicktopTTZ Captain 11 Rep 685 Posts Drives: 91 300ZX Twin-Turbo, 2010 135i Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Corpus Christi, Texas iTrader: (0)	Looks like I am going to be purchasing a PROcede soon.
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SIEN 23 Rep 130 Posts Drives: Quickly Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: US/UK iTrader: (0)	Great work Shiv!
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R1000K3 Major 55 Rep 1,311 Posts Drives: 335i MT Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: USA iTrader: (0)	Good news Shiv, I couldn't be more happy being a Procede owner.
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boxter Private First Class 6 Rep 153 Posts Drives: bmw 335i E92 Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Stuttgart iTrader: (0)	Hi Shiv, Has new v4 improvements regarding injection strategy, for example single, double or triple injection event? I always noticed (stock and Procede) different responses on account of these different modes of injection. The last maps v3 improved the response regarding timing, closure of throttle. But I think that N54 changes a lot when it alternates between single, double or triple injection event. Injection of the fuel can take place in up to 3 individual injections, this has the effect of both increasing power output and saving fuel. Thanks Last edited by boxter; 01-07-2010 at 02:14 PM..
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