[valdeztke]

Good read!

[mpimping]

not salary but 200-300 per + commision = 100-200k a year at BMW manhattan/westchester BMW. at other dealerships slightly less. summer is busier than winter...

[marketman]

Originally Posted by sarafil

$650 on a 325? $650? Are you alright???

A 325 is almost a guaranteed "mini" at our dealership. After packs, a typical deal on a 325i at full MSRP is barely a $500 como. A more typical 325 deal pays a $150 flat.

Interestingly, When I started as a BMW CA 7 years ago (2000), in the dealership I worked,a full pop deal on a 325 paid a 675.00 commision based on a 500.00 pack. by summer of 2007 that commission had been reduced to a flat of 200.00 on a full pop (msrp) deal on the same car.

Over the next 5 years I built a personal portfolio of loyal customers and became the "go to " guy for BMW product knowledge and personalized service. Nothing was more fun than serving that BMW newbie that gets his first Bimmer - whether a new grad or a retiring school teacher getting their "dream car". What could be more fun than sharing with a customer your driving experience with Donnie Isley at the BMW Performance Center in an M5 ? Then placing the order for the customer, sending him up to the Center on delivery day , make the follow up call on his cell at the end of the day and hear him tell you--" I never dreamed I would have so much fun ! Thank you for taking care of me !"Truly - I made -for some folks- their dream come true and it was a BLAST.

I worked my way up to BMW Master Client Advisor by 2004 making 65K a year. I approached 80K by the end of 2006 and then watched the discretionary income in our area tumble with the real estate market and a two new managers who formerly sold Fords and Buicks respectively get hired and promptly start the ruination of a reputation that had been built over 5 years that store NEVER had - It was finally getting some respect and they decided to play old school car business.. and so went the store's reputation.....

Anyone in the business long enough knows how it goes when Mgt starts to step on your deals to move units -taking customers from you, giving away gross- doing the scummy things that happen in domestic stores , lying to your customers then backcharging you 200.00 when the survey comes in chitty, cheating, stealing your gross, giving your customers to new, favored salesmen brought with them from hyundai dealers,Loading up a 4 man sales floor that did 35-50 new BMW's a month to 13 salesmen who know NOTHING ABOUT BMW or its customers(or cared about its customers), etc.........Funny thing is - they never got the volume up ......they are selling LESS cars now than they did when they got there.

By June 2007 I had made 24K ... had to get out of the business and get back to what I did before to take care of family.......

For you neo's who want to get in to the business : BEWARE of scumbags who will tell you ANYTHING and do anything TO YOU to make you starve for them.Ask them to put in writing everything they tell you about the car business at their store.. The response to that request will tell you everything you need to know about them.

In my time at BMW ride and drive's and workshops, I met folks who worked a great dealerships. Management and owners who took great care of their sales staff.I , unfortunately I did not work at one of those..... and the owner of the one I worked for had no interest in making his store a real BMW center.

In retrospect - I wouldn't want to sell any other car - I went to Mercedes Benz after that for a few weeks and it was even worse - and the passion for the product ? Not even close.

Do your research carefully, guys.......

[ALPINE6SPD]

Originally Posted by marketman

Interestingly, When I started as a BMW CA 7 years ago (2000), in the dealership I worked,a full pop deal on a 325 paid a 675.00 commision based on a 500.00 pack. by summer of 2007 that commission had been reduced to a flat of 200.00 on a full pop (msrp) deal on the same car.

Over the next 5 years I built a personal portfolio of loyal customers and became the "go to " guy for BMW product knowledge and personalized service. Nothing was more fun than serving that BMW newbie that gets his first Bimmer - whether a new grad or a retiring school teacher getting their "dream car". What could be more fun than sharing with a customer your driving experience with Donnie Isley at the BMW Performance Center in an M5 ? Then placing the order for the customer, sending him up to the Center on delivery day , make the follow up call on his cell at the end of the day and hear him tell you--" I never dreamed I would have so much fun ! Thank you for taking care of me !"Truly - I made -for some folks- their dream come true and it was a BLAST.

I worked my way up to BMW Master Client Advisor by 2004 making 65K a year. I approached 80K by the end of 2006 and then watched the discretionary income in our area tumble with the real estate market and a two new managers who formerly sold Fords and Buicks respectively get hired and promptly start the ruination of a reputation that had been built over 5 years that store NEVER had - It was finally getting some respect and they decided to play old school car business.. and so went the store's reputation.....

Anyone in the business long enough knows how it goes when Mgt starts to step on your deals to move units -taking customers from you, giving away gross- doing the scummy things that happen in domestic stores , lying to your customers then backcharging you 200.00 when the survey comes in chitty, cheating, stealing your gross, giving your customers to new, favored salesmen brought with them from hyundai dealers,Loading up a 4 man sales floor that did 35-50 new BMW's a month to 13 salesmen who know NOTHING ABOUT BMW or its customers(or cared about its customers), etc.........Funny thing is - they never got the volume up ......they are selling LESS cars now than they did when they got there.

By June 2007 I had made 24K ... had to get out of the business and get back to what I did before to take care of family.......

For you neo's who want to get in to the business : BEWARE of scumbags who will tell you ANYTHING and do anything TO YOU to make you starve for them.Ask them to put in writing everything they tell you about the car business at their store.. The response to that request will tell you everything you need to know about them.

In my time at BMW ride and drive's and workshops, I met folks who worked a great dealerships. Management and owners who took great care of their sales staff.I , unfortunately I did not work at one of those..... and the owner of the one I worked for had no interest in making his store a real BMW center.

In retrospect - I wouldn't want to sell any other car - I went to Mercedes Benz after that for a few weeks and it was even worse - and the passion for the product ? Not even close.

Do your research carefully, guys.......

I agree with you 100%
BRAVO from another CA

[Andrew@ET]

im applying at all of the dealerships as a service writer to start hopefully move up to sales. Im 20 and know alot about bmw's and cars in general thanks to these forums. If any one knows a of opening in the miami area let me know please. Im willing to drive and put in the hours.

[DrewKo]

Great thread; tx for the informative posts.

[ALPINE6SPD]

Originally Posted by miamibusta69

im applying at all of the dealerships as a service writer to start hopefully move up to sales. Im 20 and know alot about bmw's and cars in general thanks to these forums. If any one knows a of opening in the miami area let me know please. Im willing to drive and put in the hours.

move to NJ we need someone willing to work the hours. I work
Monday: 830am-9pm
Tuesday: 900am-5pm
Wedensday: OFF
Thursday: 9am-9pm
Friday: 9am-9pm
Saturday: 830am-6pm
If your willing to work at lease those houors let me know.

[John 070]

Originally Posted by DrewKo

Great thread; tx for the informative posts.

I was surprised to see this thread alive as well. When will people learn, the two biggest things men lie about are height, and salary? This is the www for pete's sake.

Wasn't there a funny post that had an algorithm.....if a guy says he's 6'2" and makes 120k (which is probably the avg. salary of a 3 Series owner imho), he's probably 5'5" and lives with his parents.

[Andrew@ET]

aww dam nice hours to id be banking.. ive been sending a resume to every dealer nothing yet

i have 1 1/2 years in sales and im 20 yrs old. Id take anything right now but i want a position that i can move up in, and porter or the other lower end jobs doesn't really get you noticed.

well c i guess

[hl0m4n]

Originally Posted by ALPINE6SPD

move to NJ we need someone willing to work the hours. I work
Monday: 830am-9pm
Tuesday: 900am-5pm
Wedensday: OFF
Thursday: 9am-9pm
Friday: 9am-9pm
Saturday: 830am-6pm
If your willing to work at lease those houors let me know.

whats the job position and what dealer?

[Andrew@ET]

since you work in the field what's a good entry level position for me to start? My future goal would be manager.

[ALPINE6SPD]

Originally Posted by hl0m4n

whats the job position and what dealer?

Client Advisor at Fleminton BMW in central/western NJ. Same job that I have. 2 people left so we need salespeople who are willing to put it a lot of hours, good, hard and most importantly HONEST work. One of them moved away to Colorado. Most people cant handle the hours that is the biggest problem. I really like working here so I put up with the hours and ther pain in the ass customers.

[JerseyCaneChick]

Alpine... I hope you're not referring to me in that last sentence! LOL.

[TYW]

Or me...

[Andrew@ET]

ugh OH ! LOL

[aequitas330]

Originally Posted by MoreCowbell

The $15 dollar guy can plug in a mouse and a keyboard with the best of them!!!

This made me lol.... I'm in IT too, the Healthcare IT side though, working with the Emergency Departments of a health system.

[luckyD]

we dont make shit 50-60 hours working weeks i went from 90 k last year to 45 k this year, its joke ,and you have to deal with assholes,people who make money are: dealership owners and BMW thats IT

[hl0m4n]

Originally Posted by ALPINE6SPD

Client Advisor at Fleminton BMW in central/western NJ. Same job that I have. 2 people left so we need salespeople who are willing to put it a lot of hours, good, hard and most importantly HONEST work. One of them moved away to Colorado. Most people cant handle the hours that is the biggest problem. I really like working here so I put up with the hours and ther pain in the ass customers.

shit man its 77 miles away from me lol. if it were close i would def put in the hours

[DASHOCKER]

This would make a great weekend gig for me

[ALPINE6SPD]

Originally Posted by JerseyCaneChick

Alpine... I hope you're not referring to me in that last sentence! LOL.

damn you caught me

[ALPINE6SPD]

Originally Posted by TYW

Or me...

of couse you because you only bought 3 cars from me in less than 2 years I really think your an asshole.

[TYW]

Originally Posted by ALPINE6SPD

of couse you because you only bought 3 cars from me in less than 2 years I really think your an asshole.

Agree!!!

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