[blisstik]

For those that use 91 octane with this meth kit, will it effectively increase it to 93 octane?

[CPWINCH]

Can these kits be integrated into other piggys besides jb ?

[CPWINCH]

Can these kits be integrated into other piggys besides jb ?

[RambleJ]

Originally Posted by B_davis

Theres no risk in the meth failing because the Flash tunes are designed to run on pump gas anyways. I run meth with Cobb because my IATs never go above ambient and therefore my boost remains relatively low. I also raise my effective octane level when running 93.

Thank you, not everyone on here has been brainwashed by a certain vendors "scate tactics". I can definitely use this in coordination with my flash to do exactly what you said, get a nice little bump in power, lower my IATs and raise the octane level in my horrible CA 91 pump gas.

[dfv2]

One person tell me WHY you need a failsafe on an N54 for a meth flow failure to any available flash map, alpha, beta or otherwise.

Not theory, not other platform history, not feelings... Factual stuff guys.

ON AN N54, WHY DO YOU NEED A FAILSAFE. Simple. One more time for you; Outside of the factory knock system, why do you need a failsafe?

[BrianMN]

Originally Posted by dfv2

One person tell me WHY you need a failsafe on an N54 for a meth flow failure to any available flash map, alpha, beta or otherwise.

Not theory, not other platform history, not feelings... Factual stuff guys.

ON AN N54, WHY DO YOU NEED A FAILSAFE. Simple. One more time for you; Outside of the factory knock system, why do you need a failsafe?

Where the real benefits of meth come into play is when you can raise timing as a result of meth flow.

In those cases; a failsafe is needed..Case and point: Sevak

If you can guarantee that, when running a pumpgas map, the timing won't raise beyond pumpgas levels, then a failsafe *shouldn't* be needed.

...but then you won't really be reaping the full benefit of the good stuff.

[dfv2]

Originally Posted by BrianMN

Where the real benefits of meth come into play is when you can raise timing as a result of meth flow.

In those cases; a failsafe is needed..Case and point: Sevak

If you can guarantee that, when running a pumpgas map, the timing won't raise beyond pumpgas levels, then a failsafe *shouldn't* be needed.

...but then you won't really be reaping the full benefit of the good stuff.

I understand the use of meth completely. I'm a subie fanboy, a community where 1,000's of engines are lost due to poor tunes for a variety of reasons. I've blown two of my own!

I'm looking for n54 engine failure on flash tunes due to meth flow interruption. I'm not trying to lead the witness, but I'm curious if the n54 stock knock system IS a sufficient failsafe, I never see lost motors on this forum. Other platforms, it's a daily thread topic.

[BrianMN]

Originally Posted by dfv2

I understand the use of meth completely. I'm a subie fanboy, a community where 1,000's of engines are lost due to poor tunes for a variety of reasons. I've blown two of my own!

I'm looking for n54 engine failure on flash tunes due to meth flow interruption. I'm not trying to lead the witness, but I'm curious if the n54 stock knock system IS a sufficient failsafe, I never see lost motors on this forum. Other platforms, it's a daily thread topic.

This platform simply isn't at that level yet.

The N54 knock system IS good and the N54 IS quite strong; as proved by the 5000 JB3s sold with a small number of failures.

If you're looking for an N54 that has blown already in the situation you've described; it simply hasn't happened. Not because this platform is that resilient...rather not evolved to the point where everyone is pushing 500whp on an OTS Flash with a meth W/O a failsafe.

That said, it is best practice to proactively cut timing immediately after the conditions won't support the advanced level of timing...before the knock sensors have to react, meaning whatever undesirable damage (whether large or small) is done. That is common sense; and indisputable.

So if it is best practice, why not?

[Slidewayz]

Knock sensors pull timing when they sense a detonation event.

I would rather not have the detonation event, the damage from which is not aways immediate and catastrophic. The damage from detonation can also be gradual and cumulative.

[E90SoFlo]

Originally Posted by Slidewayz

Knock sensors pull timing when they sense a detonation event.

I would rather not have the detonation event, the damage from which is not aways immediate and catastrophic. The damage from detonation can also be gradual and cumulative.

All piggy's will have some detonation and correction.