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06-19-2007, 08:30 PM | #111 |
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I like how the OP started this thread to discuss the potential ramifications of making the kind of power the Procede makes, not to bash anyone. Yet, he is the one who has drug this down the depths of troll hell by posting hear say and bullshit.
Look dude, if you want to talk about tuning lets talk about it. Let's not talk bullshit that you can't prove or heard from a friend of a friend of a friend of a guy who has a blown motor caused by Shiv and had absolutely nothing to do with his 10,000 passes down the drag strip, that 100 shot of nitrous and, shifting at redline for every gear. If you are really curious about how the product works instead of pulling shit out of your ass to cause controversy (which we all know is what you want) why don't you ask some relevant questions like: What's the knock count on a Procede tune? Is there still a low octane map for the ECU to switch to in case it does detonate from bad gas or something? There is all kinds of other info out there already about the Procede tune (more than you can say about any other tuner for these cars) like AFR's and boost numbers that you could check out if you wanted to. However, to me it sounds like you have no fucking clue what you are talking about in the first place and are just going by what other people tell you with no real knowledge of how or why certain things work or don't work or why Shiv can get the numbers he can and other tuners can't and therefore it's "unsafe". Oh, and by the way why don't you try going to the dealership and showing them ANY piggyback unit and see how that goes. Be sure to video tape that too. I'm not a shiv fan boy and I would say this if this were about any other tuner as well, it really pisses me off when someone with an obvious agenda starts spouting off "facts" to try and discredit someone else with little to no factual evidence. This thread should be closed. It isn't about learning anything (except who to add to my ignore list) it's just more useless crap. Last edited by hotrod2448; 06-19-2007 at 08:54 PM.. |
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06-20-2007, 02:48 AM | #112 | |
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06-20-2007, 08:39 AM | #114 | |
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It's shit like your last sentence that take away any credibility of your reasons for posting. If you want people not bash you maybe you start by having the same courtesy for others. Last edited by hotrod2448; 06-20-2007 at 04:22 PM.. |
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06-20-2007, 11:52 AM | #116 |
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It is a data free zone right now. Nothing to discuss, only speculate and conjecture. My opinion against yours. This leads to the discussions becoming personal attacks. Most of us do not enjoy reading or engaging in this BS slinging.
If you want to play it safe, stay stock and enjoy your car. If you want to mod the engine, recognize that it will increase the odds that something will break. That said, BMWs are built and engineered to withstand a lot of stresses. Shiv and Vishnu are experienced entities with established reputations. So are Hartge, Alpina, etc. Try taking several deep breaths before responding to negative posts. Figure out how to de-escalate the conflict rather than making things worse. We are all here to have fun, not bitch.
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06-20-2007, 01:55 PM | #117 |
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I'm a little confused. You say PROcede / Xede is dangerous yet you go with a solution (Turbo Tuner) that results in a much leaner operating condition.
Am I missing something? |
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06-20-2007, 02:03 PM | #118 |
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06-20-2007, 09:33 PM | #119 | |
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I made the same decision...I went with the Eurobahn TT...excellent results...very easy to remove and cheap. It doesn't have the OMIGOD factor that I've seen the Procede owners proclaim but the increased power is exciting and the system is much less invasive...two plugs...and your in business. |
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06-20-2007, 11:24 PM | #120 |
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The TT may look simpler and produce a little less power, but that does not necessarily mean that it is safer / easier for your engine. We don't know.
Plug and play is very convenient though.
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06-21-2007, 12:14 AM | #121 |
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Well, just because the car has a PROcede doesnt mean that is the cause of limp mode.
If you read the magazine that tested the 335i vs the G37 in arizona you will find that the 335i went into limp mode and it was bone stock. I personally havent seen an engine temp above 230F in Florida at 93F outside, unless my car is in park and idling for 10 minutes. I drive it pretty hard at times and have never been to 240F. Now, I am sure my auto has the added oil cooler and maybe that is the reason. It seems after researching the forums and following Vishnu's updates along with end users feedback that everyone is loving the product and any problems that may have arised have not been problems that have JUST happened with the PROcede. I (and I am sure many of you) have read about stock cars with failing fuel pumps and cars going into limp mode. So far his product is the only one that was entered in a 12hr race with no reliability issues. I dont know much about tuning but just because the TT is suttle doesnt mean its better for the engine. They could have just turned up the boost a few psi's and not adjusted any other parameters. Sorta off topic, if you wanna hear something funny - I was at a muffler shop last weekend and the muffler guy was telling me about how chips were a waste of money and that you can just drill three holes in the wastegate which would cause it to hold boost longer. |
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06-21-2007, 12:18 AM | #122 | |
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06-21-2007, 12:23 AM | #123 |
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lawdude is a joke. look at his last 15 post. None of which contributes to any discussion on the forums. He just butts in and makes a few wise ass comments and bounce. Thats all he is. He probably don't even own a bmw. I doubt he even has a license.
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06-21-2007, 07:31 AM | #124 | |
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I've been lurking for a few weeks now and I decided to sign up and say: for a day trader you sure are childish. I say let the true results determine what you have to say about company A vs company B's product. I swear this is the only business where internet trolls can actually have an affect on someone's livelihood simply because they don't like someone or a particular product. This car seems to go into limp mode a lot, as evidenced by the (Motor Trend or Automobile, I'm not sure) article about the new G vs the 335. Guess what if it happens stock then forcing more power (read: heat) onto the motor may cause it to happen MORE. |
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06-21-2007, 07:42 AM | #125 |
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Make that 16.
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06-21-2007, 07:56 AM | #126 |
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LMAO, now that was good. I wouldn't buy a screw from him
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06-21-2007, 08:13 AM | #127 | |
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Might I add, I didn't even say anything about what I "heard", which I didn't claim until Shiv himself asked, "what did you hear"? Then I replied what I heard, and bam...there they go. Yes, I know what I hear may not be true. So all the good stuff I heard about Procede is 100% true, and the few bad things I hear are automatically b.s trash talk leaked by their "competitors"? Whatever. Procede is awsome, Shiv is THE best tuner by far. Bmw should definately hire him because the 335i would have been making 379hp rwhp right out of the factory. |
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06-21-2007, 09:11 AM | #128 | |
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