91 0% ethanol vs, 94 10% ethanol

dzenno · 11-05-2009, 07:26 AM

What do you guys think is better to run... 91 is Shell nitrogen enriched, 94 is Sunoco...

Personally have a feeling that 91 no ethanol is better for our HPFP as I've read somewhere that ethanol in gas might be the cause of most HPFP failures..

TurboSid · 11-05-2009, 07:40 AM

less ethanol = better but lower octane = lower power levels.

hotrod182 · 11-05-2009, 08:33 AM

I was running Shell Nitrogen enriched. Noticed my MPH went up when I switched over to 76. And I am talking about a good 1mph in the qtr mile. My GF accidentally put some Shell back in my car. I will retest to confirm my suspicions.

Mike@N54Tuning.com · 11-05-2009, 08:41 AM

I run the 94 Sunoco all the time as I find its great gas. I think mileage suffers a little but its hard for me to run 91 when I can run 94 from the pump for only pennies more.

Addicted to map7

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dzenno · 11-05-2009, 08:54 AM

I think that increase in power you get with a 10% ethanol 94 vs. a 0% 91 is less than the benefit of running cleaner fuel...make sense?

Price isn't a concern to me in this case..

jpsimon · 11-05-2009, 09:40 AM

bah i've been running shell 93octane with 10% ethanol since day one with this car and I'm still on the original fuel pump.

just go with the 94

dzenno · 11-05-2009, 09:48 AM

JP, what's with your signature?

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bah i've been running shell 93octane with 10% ethanol since day one with this car and I'm still on the original fuel pump.

just go with the 94

Former_Boosted_IS · 11-05-2009, 09:50 AM

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JP, what's with your signature?

My money is on Methanol.

TexAg06 · 11-05-2009, 10:33 AM

12% ethanol will be here shortly. take that to the bank.

jpsimon · 11-05-2009, 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Former_Boosted_IS

My money is on Methanol.

na not methanol, that technology isn't a secret

jpsimon · 11-05-2009, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by dzenno

JP, what's with your signature?

I'm not at liberty to say, but it is awesome.

SLCGoonski · 11-05-2009, 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by jpsimon

I'm not at liberty to say, but it is awesome.

I'd love a timeline...even if it never happens...

jpsimon · 11-05-2009, 10:38 AM

haha this isn't the thread to discuss it, all I can say is that it's currently being developed and I'll make a new thread when I have videos

OpenFlash · 11-05-2009, 10:42 AM

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haha this isn't the thread to discuss it, all I can say is that it's currently being developed and I'll make a new thread when I have videos

I love it.

RambleJ · 11-05-2009, 10:47 AM

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I'm not at liberty to say, but it is awesome.

Putting money on it having something to do with an iPhone/iTouch!!

vtec96 · 11-05-2009, 11:00 AM

I was wondering the same thing, too!!
I am running with 91 Shell cause I am not sure if 10% ethanol makes REAL 94????

dmurray14 · 11-05-2009, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by jpsimon

haha this isn't the thread to discuss it, all I can say is that it's currently being developed and I'll make a new thread when I have videos

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Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

I love it.

dzenno · 11-05-2009, 12:50 PM

I used to run Sunoco 94 10% ethanol but ever since I heard that in the long run HPFP suffers from ethanol I switched to the cleanest 91 available, 0% ethanol, nitrogen enriched shell fuel...if I need more power from fuel I'll put race gas in..

Guess my main concern is not killing my HPFP because of minor power added from not so clean 94

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Mike@N54Tuning.com Joint Chiefs of Staff 4912 Rep 115,980 Posts Drives: 2007 335i, 2015 M3 Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: N54tuning.com iTrader: (89)	I run the 94 Sunoco all the time as I find its great gas. I think mileage suffers a little but its hard for me to run 91 when I can run 94 from the pump for only pennies more. Addicted to map7 LOL Mike
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dzenno Banned 273 Rep 5,876 Posts Drives: Join Date: Feb 2006 iTrader: (1)	I think that increase in power you get with a 10% ethanol 94 vs. a 0% 91 is less than the benefit of running cleaner fuel...make sense? Price isn't a concern to me in this case..
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jpsimon Team Zissou 3065 Rep 10,197 Posts Drives: 2022 AWD M3 Comp - SMB Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: CT iTrader: (7)	bah i've been running shell 93octane with 10% ethanol since day one with this car and I'm still on the original fuel pump. just go with the 94
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vtec96 Second Lieutenant 25 Rep 286 Posts Drives: E89 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Canada iTrader: (2)	I was wondering the same thing, too!! I am running with 91 Shell cause I am not sure if 10% ethanol makes REAL 94???? __________________ CURRENT: 2009 E89 35i Dinan Stage 2 PAST: 2008 E92 335xi
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dzenno Banned 273 Rep 5,876 Posts Drives: Join Date: Feb 2006 iTrader: (1)	I used to run Sunoco 94 10% ethanol but ever since I heard that in the long run HPFP suffers from ethanol I switched to the cleanest 91 available, 0% ethanol, nitrogen enriched shell fuel...if I need more power from fuel I'll put race gas in.. Guess my main concern is not killing my HPFP because of minor power added from not so clean 94
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