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03-04-2008, 03:44 PM | #67 | |
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03-04-2008, 03:58 PM | #68 |
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Yes, I don't think it's too smart to "power shift" all the time. I don't track or race my car, but I can still shift pretty fast. I'm sure the step/auto is probably the more reliable shifter on the track too. I guess the 6mt would be quite a bit faster with a 3.46 instead of the 3.08 though. I imagine that would be pretty expensive though.
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03-04-2008, 04:51 PM | #70 |
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only 2 tenths? 2 tenths = 2 car lengths in the quarter !
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Plus, there are far more autos on the road! I have seen nothing to prove the auto is faster. The Turbo lag argument is weak....this isn't an 80s Turbo car. The lag is insignificant unless you are doing a slow shift. Quote:
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03-19-2008, 03:30 AM | #72 |
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i was doing some searching on the forum regarding how much torque the different transmissions can handle and i ran into some confusion. some threads claimed that there was a change in the AT in 08 that yielded in a tranny that can handle more wtq than the previous one . However, I have read threads that have denounced this as false. Can someone clarify to me what the AT transmissions can handle wtq-wise based on MY?
From what i have read thus far, i am led to believe that: 2007 335i AT can handle ~350 wtq 9/2007+ 335i AT can handle ~400+ wtq |
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03-19-2008, 03:54 AM | #73 | |
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PS. Who is down for a group buy on the 3.46 gears?!?
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03-19-2008, 09:54 AM | #74 | |
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Manual Transmission requires the driver to be good if you can powershift, you will not lose boost and ur shifts are super fast Auto Transmission will be more consistent in shifting
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03-19-2008, 10:17 AM | #75 | |
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As a note: In Australia we have been modifying the ZF six speed steptronic for a little while now since the same gearbox is fitted to the XR6 Turbo Ford Falcon's. At the drags these 6 cylinder cars are running better times than the same Falcon's running the V8....AUTO OR MANUAL. These cars running the Australian made Xede or Haltech ECU are damn fast.....look it up !! With all that being said, if I was circuit racing I would definitely opt for a manual any day of the week unless I could adapt and learn how to properly race with a gearbox like the DSG or M-DCT or other makes from Ferrari or the new Skyline, which by the way, only comes in semi-automatic - go figure.
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Wow ... I really feel for you manual driving folks ... soon, you won't be able to play with your sticks.
The automotive industry is moving towards a dual clutch solution. No reason to manufacture manuals when you can have the speed of a DSG. Had one in my Audi TT ... no comparison! |
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VAVAVIVA!=) this thread was fun to read.... let me leave my input... I think it still takes a little bit of skill to properly launch an AT, simply because you have to perfectly hold the rpm at 1700 to launch perfecty, if u rev it a bit higher ur take off is screwed... which i think is just as hard for stick drivers to feather their clutch during the launch.... from my experience AT's ARE faster in first 4 gears, and usually always launch allot better... sry but for now, AT>>MT
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03-19-2008, 12:36 PM | #78 |
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To me, its not about which one is faster.
With respect to many years of racing heritage, and the fact that it is more fun, I always choose a 6MT car. Its a way of connecting with the engine that the automatic transmission does not. It brings me closer to the power of the car when I control it to that greater extent. |
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03-19-2008, 06:31 PM | #81 |
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Not true it has been discussed MANY times, why don't you and you'll see what you find. With both cars with the same mods STEP>STICK
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03-19-2008, 06:32 PM | #82 |
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Any 6mt's in socal with SSTT only? Lets go.
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My advise, don't decide on 6MT or STEP based on fractions of a second unless you plan to competitively race your car at a dragstrip and fractions of a second count.
I have 6MT. My decision was purely based on how much I enjoy driving 6MT. In my opinion there is no other feeling like shifting a car into 2nd, 3rd...etc and feeling the shift/gear change vibrate up your arm and releasing the clutching as you punch the gas. For me, its exhilarating. I could car less whether my car was 1 second slower in a 1/4 mile run or whatever, and I don't go around "playing" with cars on freeways either. I drive for the experience and not the numbers. If i'm not happy with my "experience" I sell the 335i and buy a car that does give me the "experience" i'm looking for. That being said, STEP is great and also enjoyable. Just not as enjoyable for me than it is with a 6MT. By the way, have any of you driven the new GTI's? Or any car with a DSG gearbox. DSG is phenomenal. Such quick shifts. |
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..."auto is usually faster"......NOT!
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Sorry disappoints you but it is the true. Just find a good driver to show you how quick the stick is compared with step. And if you follow the same logic with the E46 M3, you will see that i'm right. You can shift on a MT at wot. Can you make that on a step??? It won't be very good for the transmission life wear, but is possible.
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03-19-2008, 07:00 PM | #86 | |
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Couldn't have said it better myself. 2 reasons why I chose auto over 6mt. 1) Commute to and from work every day is usually pretty trafficy. 2) This is the best auto I've ever test driven in my life. But honostly 6mt's are "funner" and for track purposes no computer will be as smart as a person driving the car. When I tracked my car at Fontana speedway, in DS mode is shifted pretty good, but there was always one turn where it shifted 1 gear too low, every time. So the second and third times had it in DS and paddle shifted that 1 turn, it only went down 1 gear instead of two.
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03-19-2008, 07:01 PM | #87 | |
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sorry but it is the true.
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And FYI everyshift with an auto when its floored is WOT.
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