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      03-20-2018, 02:36 AM   #45
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I would not get the CCB... I test drove it and the CCB are terrible. You'll see many car reviews complain about it. I test drove it through some twisty mountain roads. The pedal has a weird feeling and it's not tuned correctly. It feels like it bites hard but then has no stopping power once you step more - it makes for a very jerky and scary ride. It is very much a electric brake pedal.

Otherwise, it's a great car. It feels so light on it's feet and much more fun to drive than an M3 or C63. But lack of manual transmission and reliability is questionable.
My impression was the opposite. I really liked the bite and feedback. Although it wasn't canyon driving. I don't really like the stock brakes on my F80. I'm either going to get a retro fit CCB or get a set of AP BBK.
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BMW need to put the X-drive system from the M5 in the next M3.
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      03-20-2018, 09:43 AM   #47
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BMW need to put the X-drive system from the M5 in the next M3.
And maybe the Z4 auto too. Gross.

What the M3 needs is not more weight and complexity. Some steering feel would be a good start.
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Snicker. I tried at the top of this page. Guess we shouldn't go down the Bah Emm Vay route either.
And it's "ro-ME-o", not "RO-me-o". Respect the Romantic.

Similarly, it's "POUR-sha", not "Poorsh". Respect the Germanic.



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And there's always the Germanic pronunciation of AMG. Not that there's anything wrong with that...
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And there's always the Germanic pronunciation of AMG. Not that there's anything wrong with that...
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Different folks different strokes! I bet the Alfa would sell much better at $65k but they would be taking a huge loss. Lots of development and upscale (relatively) materials exist in the $80k range than the $70k Hellcat doesn't have but makes up for in raw power. A base M4 is $65k compared to a base $60k Hellcat. The Hellcat is built for the straight line, as many comparison tests with the M4 will show, 1/4 mile and 0-60 are where it shines, but the M4 and other sports sedans outperform the Hellcat consistently on corners mainly because of the weight and driving characteristics. If you a drag racer, Hellcat or Demon etc. but if a more rounded machine you need, there are plenty of better options.

The ZL1 1LE, now there is a machine worth the $$. I just need 4 doors

A few months ago my lease for 335 came to an end and I was looking at a sports car just for me as kids are out of the house now. I looked at the M4, Alfa, S5 and the corvette and and ended up with the F-type. All similarly priced but I just couldn't get over how the Jag looked and sounded. To this day I don't regret my decision at all.

Cheers.
Real question: can you fit a set of golf clubs in one of those?
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Looks OK, but I prefer a car with a name that I can pronounce.
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Real question: can you fit a set of golf clubs in one of those?
I have enough room to put my golf clubs in the trunk and a small bag. This car is all about looks and sound and power. Practically isn't its strong suit.
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Looks OK, but I prefer a car with a name that I can pronounce.
You can't pronounce "Julia"? That's how it is spoken.
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Looks OK, but I prefer a car with a name that I can pronounce.
Savages.
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Looks OK, but I prefer a car with a name that I can pronounce.
How are you with Drei, Fünf und Sieben?
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You can't pronounce "Julia"? That's how it is spoken.
That is only the first part of the name.
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How are you with Drei, Fünf und Sieben?
What has 3, 5 and 7 have to do with anything? Unless you think you are being cute naming a gun and making an implied threat. Then it is just childish and stupid!
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That is only the first part of the name.
Well, that's what they say in their own TV commercials so it must be good enough
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How are you with Drei, Fünf und Sieben?
What has 3, 5 and 7 have to do with anything? Unless you think you are being cute naming a gun and making an implied threat. Then it is just childish and stupid!
What are you on about? You can't pronounce simple Italian things, just seeing if you could pronounce your own?
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What are you on about? You can't pronounce simple Italian things, just seeing if you could pronounce your own?
You chose 3, 5, and 7. why those numbers if not reflecting a caliber. Besides, I am American. You sure make a lot of ass umptions!
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Well, that's what they say in their own TV commercials so it must be good enough
If you say so.
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I'm no slave to Consumer Reports, but here's their recent list of 10 worst brands:

1. Fiat
2. Jeep
3. Land Rover
4. Alfa Romeo
5. Mitsubishi
6. Jaguar
7. GMC
8. Dodge
9. Ram
10. Mini

That said, the new Giulia Quadrifoglio is a beauty, IMO, as was the 1960's Giulia GTA:
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I'm no slave to Consumer Reports, but here's their recent list of 10 worst brands:

1. Fiat
2. Jeep
3. Land Rover
4. Alfa Romeo
5. Mitsubishi
6. Jaguar
7. GMC
8. Dodge
9. Ram
10. Mini

That said, the new Giulia Quadrifoglio is a beauty, IMO, as was the 1960's Giulia GTA:
Based on this, I should remove the Hellcat, GC SRT & F-Type from my short list.

Also, that 60s Alfa front end looks like a buck tooth face.
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What are you on about? You can't pronounce simple Italian things, just seeing if you could pronounce your own?
You chose 3, 5, and 7. why those numbers if not reflecting a caliber. Besides, I am American. You sure make a lot of ass umptions!
You know you're on a BMW forum, correct?
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