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      06-10-2012, 12:45 PM   #23
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Dinans numbers dont include DPs.

All though I dont know if it would add a whole lot since it isnt tuned for them.
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      06-10-2012, 12:48 PM   #24
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Sorry to crush your credibility, but the OP is the same guy who needed help getting the dyno to read right.

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=703346

"At the dyno and need to knw where to get the reading from so we can get a torque measurement on the graph"
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No baseline = worthless results. Problem is with a Dinan tune, it's impossible for him to baseline unless he had a BMW tech there to reflash back to stock software. I wonder if I can get 550 whp out of my RB turbos on this dyno
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I have my upgrades in my sig, plus a lol extra for some added whp... Dyno will b added shortly since it wnt upload from my phone...


Baseline was 322whp no torquew reading being that they didn't know where to grab the rpm value from, sorry no chart as I lost my previous phone that it was on, gas was 93 Oct Sunoco from jersey with AutoZone/Nos octane booster... Trying to upgrade graph as we speak.... But to no avail....
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But my N54 came w/ 300 HP/TQ lol


I'm calling on this too. Dinan tunes are the most conservative of all the options on the market. Even if Dinan's numbers were right, you should only be seeing 398 HP & 429 TQ on the Stage 3 tune (and according to the OPs sig, he's running a Stage 2 tune).

**If Meth/E85/Race Gas was used, it would make this 100% possible. It's the fact that it's an all motor claim is the problem.
Perhaps Dinan has goosed their numbers to better compete against the likes of Cobb and others but in any event, I'm going in for my "free" lifetime reflash update as soon as convenient because you never know!
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I have to agree with Benzy on this one - I've got Dinan S3 tune, exhaust, and CAI, plus ETS 5" FMIC and ER Sport OC. Dinan does state 408 HP if you have all their "required" add-ons, but I've never dyno'd my car, although it definitely has "some zip". I don't see how an S2 could produce nearly the same HP as S3 with less peak boost. Has to be a dyno calibration glitch - my car on S3 is WAY stronger than it was on S2, even with the FMIC, exhaust, etc.
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Maybe Op bought his car with upgraded RB turbos and doesnt know it?
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No wonder people say that e90 post is full of kids and haters. Lol. I provide the info and still get shit... What more do you need? Better yet who cares what you need. The dyno is up for you to see with who and wtq numbers. And for the individual who said that I posted a thread about where to get the rpm reading from, what was the point? I asked and someone loaded the pic and showed me where it was. Then we connected did a few pulls and got a few results... Only thing we can do is lock it up and see what's what. By all means I love to run as my people in the bx know. Lol its is not my fault if your tune isn't providing for you but mine is and will gladly show you.... Then show you my print out after...

FLAME SUIT ON!!!! LMAO
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Myst where do u dyno your car? Oh and btw I'm in queens right now....
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      06-10-2012, 02:47 PM   #33
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You're probably putting down something REAL in the 350-365 WHP range
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      06-10-2012, 02:51 PM   #34
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Did you buy the car new? Is it possible you, unknowingly, have a JB+ stacked on top of your Dinan? I never got on a dyno while I had the Dinan S2, but my Cobb S1+ managed 334/390 on a Dyno Dynamics "Heartbreaker" dyno and outperforms the Dinan S2 tune I had in every area except throttle smoothness.
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Too bad a stock N54 baselines between 265-275whp.
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Must be a extremly high dyno to be 322 baseline
Ahh I said it was with the dinan tune... Read first then post.

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If that's just Dinan that seems really high.

Here is my dyno with 12-17 procede maps with full bolt ons.



Barely over 400 on 92 pump.
I was on 93 with the nos octane boost that claims 6 point octane increase 93+6=99. Although you never know how much octane it really increased

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What dyno was this??? I wanna see if I can get 500+ WHP/WTQ now that I'm running COBB Stage 2+FMIC
Maybe but be prepared to be flamed for your results and please post proof... Lol
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And that's still the problem. Without a no-tune baseline, this is irrelevant. While not likely, but if he only gained ~20 hp with the dinan and no bolt-on mods, he's still almost ~30 hp higher than most stock baselines, which would put him around 370 hp compared to others.

I guess



Not going to happen without meth and probably upgraded turbos. Unless of course you "baseline" at 375.
Not true as someone just posted there dyno without meth on proceed.
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But my N54 came w/ 300 HP/TQ lol


I'm calling on this too. Dinan tunes are the most conservative of all the options on the market. Even if Dinan's numbers were right, you should only be seeing 398 HP & 429 TQ on the Stage 3 tune (and according to the OPs sig, he's running a Stage 2 tune).

**If Meth/E85/Race Gas was used, it would make this 100% possible. It's the fact that it's an all motor claim is the problem.
Not race gas but additives and 17.5 psi

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Sorry to crush your credibility, but the OP is the same guy who needed help getting the dyno to read right.

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=703346

"At the dyno and need to knw where to get the reading from so we can get a torque measurement on the graph"
and your point is...
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Did you buy the car new? Is it possible you, unknowingly, have a JB+ stacked on top of your Dinan? I never got on a dyno while I had the Dinan S2, but my Cobb S1+ managed 334/390 on a Dyno Dynamics "Heartbreaker" dyno and outperforms the Dinan S2 tune I had in every area except throttle smoothness.
no bought it used and I do have a jb+ on min setting that's how I'm getting 17.5psi
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Where do you guys who live in queens dyno your cars?
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no bought it used and I do have a jb+ on min setting that's how I'm getting 17.5psi
Well that helps explain things a bit.
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Had it in for so long I totally forgot about it...
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No wonder people say that e90 post is full of kids and haters. Lol. I provide the info and still get shit... What more do you need?
Kids and haters? Simply put, you have not provided all the info. Even a "baseline of 322 with just Dinan" is not a baseline. A stock map run is the only proper baseline for a tune. Some people prefer even a pure stock car baseline, but bolt-ons typically yield similar results so it's rather simple to extrapolate from a "fbo baseline". Obviously if you want to compare what your bolt-ons make, that's a different story, but from a tune perspective, the only baseline is stock map. Otherwise we have absolutely no reference as to what the tune provided.

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Not true as someone just posted there dyno without meth on proceed.
Seems like you took my quote out of context, but what I said was true. No one has hit 500rwhp without meth given an accurate baseline (except maybe the single turbo).

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no bought it used and I do have a jb+ on min setting that's how I'm getting 17.5psi
This is why people are being so skeptical. You call us haters, yet you're not providing the full story. No one wants to ruin someone's dyno thread (except maybe a few people), we're just asking for very commonplace information that belongs in a dyno thread.
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NOW we get the fully story lol, congrats on the #s
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Kids and haters? Simply put, you have not provided all the info. Even a "baseline of 322 with just Dinan" is not a baseline. A stock map run is the only proper baseline for a tune. Some people prefer even a pure stock car baseline, but bolt-ons typically yield similar results so it's rather simple to extrapolate from a "fbo baseline". Obviously if you want to compare what your bolt-ons make, that's a different story, but from a tune perspective, the only baseline is stock map. Otherwise we have absolutely no reference as to what the tune provided.



Seems like you took my quote out of context, but what I said was true. No one has hit 500rwhp without meth given an accurate baseline (except maybe the single turbo).



This is why people are being so skeptical. You call us haters, yet you're not providing the full story. No one wants to ruin someone's dyno thread (except maybe a few people), we're just asking for very commonplace information that belongs in a dyno thread.
Lol @ except some people.

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NOW we get the fully story lol, congrats on the #s
My fault I totally forgot about the jb+. I have had it on the car for a while. But thanks tho
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6 points of octane booster from the NOS bottles is not 93+6=99 lol...

There was another thread I read which another member provided valid/concrete evidence that every point only adds 0.1 of octane increase meaning you were running 93+0.6=93.6 octane.

I'm no expert, but I've read almost every thread posted in the last 8 months regarding dyno #'s and their respective bolt-ons to reach those numbers and I've never once seen numbers that high based on your mods. Clearly it's an excessively high reading dyno.

But I said it earlier (you may have deleted it) if it makes you happy that's all that matters. You need not prove anything to anyone. Plus, all the members are looking for is all the facts/evidence so that the Info. you provided can be compared to other consistent/valid/tested results.

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Please try a different dyno, obviously.
I would hit 500 whp on that one lol.
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