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      02-24-2014, 03:14 PM   #111
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      02-24-2014, 04:43 PM   #112
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In 10 years metal wheels will probably be looked at as heavy relics of the past.
I think if carbon brakes can deliver the low dust, long life, and high performance they promise, steel brake rotors may eventually go the way of the buggy whip also.
If you believe any of this, I have a bridge for sale in NY you might like to buy. Maybe in 20 years or longer on CF wheels, but by then everyone (meaning the aftermarket mfgs) would need to be making/selling CF wheels. Forged Al and Mg wheels have been around for decades and they still remain relatively low volume/expensive items. Also, I think you mean cast iron rotors, not steel, and they will probably still be around for a long time due to cost.
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The car is to be the BMW X7 with V12.
Whilst X7 will be available with a V12.
A 6 Cylinder combined with BMW eDrive is more plausible for the Concept.
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BMW's Carbon Fiber Wheel?! Whaaat?!!

An option on the i-series (electric cars).

http://autos.yahoo.com/blogs/motoram...173428655.html

They actually look pretty sweet; they would look great on a light colored car. It'll probably cost an arm and a leg knowing BMW....
I am sure if they make them for the i-series they might also make it for any other cars like our e9x.
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I wonder how much it'll cost. Probably close to about $3.5k for a set of 20s?
I think you're pretty close on the price, but with the wrong unit size. A set of 19" CSLs runs $2.5k or more, and CF wheels will clearly be WAY more expensive than any factory alloys. I'd guess 20s would be $2.5-3.5k EACH.
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I think HRE was already working on CF wheels before BMW but yeah it's cool and I want want want.
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I can make up for all of that weight that I have in my hardtop with a set of these

Wonder if they would be invincible against road hazards and potholes?
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I can make up for all of that weight that I have in my hardtop with a set of these

Wonder if they would be invincible against road hazards and potholes?
Thats part of the problem with carbon is thats its very strong and light but very rigid and cracks as opposed to aluminum or steel bending.
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Now, if BMW could only invent a CF road to use them on.
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I can make up for all of that weight that I have in my hardtop with a set of these

Wonder if they would be invincible against road hazards and potholes?
Thats part of the problem with carbon is thats its very strong and light but very rigid and cracks as opposed to aluminum or steel bending.
That would have been my assumption... I'm sure it'll be some type of composite instead.
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Now, if BMW could only invent a CF road to use them on.
Or perhaps invent a road surface that will bend instead of creating potholes
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Or perhaps invent a road surface that will bend instead of creating potholes
Some EU countries use like foam or padding material as a layer in roadbuilding which makes them more pliable and less likely to have potholes or cracks. Unfortunately in the US we intentionally build our roads to fail in order to maintain jobs...
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Unfortunately in the US we intentionally build our roads to fail in order to maintain jobs...
Illinois style need to keep laborers working. Can't complain too much, I worked on 355 in construction to help pay for college
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Or perhaps invent a road surface that will bend instead of creating potholes
Some EU countries use like foam or padding material as a layer in roadbuilding which makes them more pliable and less likely to have potholes or cracks. Unfortunately in the US we intentionally build our roads to fail in order to maintain jobs...
This. There was a story once- on the concrete roadways of old, and why they went the way of asphalt.
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Only interested if we're talking sub 15 lbs for a 19. (which seems to be in the ballpark)
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Some EU countries use like foam or padding material as a layer in roadbuilding which makes them more pliable and less likely to have potholes or cracks. Unfortunately in the US we intentionally build our roads to fail in order to maintain jobs...
I actually remember reading a while back that some roads in the US were starting to be made using some mixture of asphalt and rubbers/plastics to improve sound, durability, and gas mileage.

I obviously couldn't tell you which roads they were, but I do think they are doing something about it
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Paving material choice is all about COST. Period.

Concrete may be more durable, especially in warm weather climates where freezing water wont crack it to bits, but it takes longer, costs more (+ rebar, etc), and repairs are much longer/expensive.

Asphalt is simply cheaper, easier and faster. Pothole? Cold Patch. Bad section? Simple grind and repave in 1 train. Of course, being petroleum based, costs could increase. Thus the use of rubbers and other polymers melted into the mixture - helps cost (recycled), in theory durability too.
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they should start by improving the offsets and tire sizes across the board...just saying.
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