|
|
|
|
|
|
BMW Garage | BMW Meets | Register | Today's Posts | Search |
|
BMW 3-Series (E90 E92) Forum
>
Opinions from people who had both PE and Vanguard?
|
|
07-30-2013, 12:39 AM | #1 |
Captain
234
Rep 990
Posts |
Opinions from people who had both PE and Vanguard?
You have probably seen me posting about being not satisfied with the Vanguard exhaust with Charles's DPs and I am on a quest to find what I like. My next choice fell on the PE. Is there anybody who had both and what you stayed with and why? Also, if I get PE do you, guys, think its worth it to make custom flanges and bolt on to the Vanguard midsection or should I get the stock exhaust and sell Vanguard? How do you think would be the sound with Vanguard piping and PE mufflers compared to stock piping. Thank you as always!
__________________
2010 Alpine White E90 335i RWD 6MT M/Premium/Cold
|
07-30-2013, 07:31 AM | #3 |
MT or bust!
170
Rep 289
Posts
Drives: 2010 E90 335i M Sport, 6MT
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Alexandria
|
what don't you like about the vanguard? the video clips i heard sounded awesome. i have the PE. it sounds good, but tends to burble at idle.
the best sounding exhaust i've ever owned was from UUC on my 97 328i...miss that sound.
__________________
2010 E90 335i M Sport, MT - BMW PE; VRSF 7in HD; RB PCV; VRSF CP; Turbosmart KPB BOV; M3 Cowl; VRSF Cerakote DPs; Carly coding; ECS Scoops; Ziza interior LEDs; Fuel-It! Bucketless; Diff lock down brace V2; MHD E60 Map from BQ; Mishimoto OCC; Fuel-It! Ethanol Sensor; Apex 18x9 ARC-8's; StopTech slotted rotors; HPS pads; ECS brake lines; MMP turbos, inlets, outlets; 034 mounts; Kumho PS31s; BimmerLife coils
|
Appreciate
0
|
07-30-2013, 08:29 AM | #4 |
First Lieutenant
13
Rep 342
Posts
Drives: E90 Monaco Blue 335i xdrive
Join Date: May 2013
Location: Central NJ
|
you don't like the burble sound?! I love that lol
__________________
2010 E90 335i xdrive | Monaco Blue with Black Interior | All Packages except Sport :/ | Apex EC-7 | Active Autowerke Strut Bar | Roc Euro DCI | Roc Euro Hyperboost DVs | aFe Scoops | BMW Performance Exhaust | BMWCCA member
|
Appreciate
0
|
07-30-2013, 10:14 AM | #5 |
Captain
234
Rep 990
Posts |
Love the burble but it sounds a bit tamed. Its awesome on cold start but than a bit too tamed. Do you have dps with your PE?
__________________
2010 Alpine White E90 335i RWD 6MT M/Premium/Cold
|
Appreciate
0
|
07-30-2013, 10:14 AM | #6 |
Captain
234
Rep 990
Posts |
LOL I will, if I don't chop it to work with PE lol
__________________
2010 Alpine White E90 335i RWD 6MT M/Premium/Cold
|
Appreciate
0
|
07-30-2013, 11:51 AM | #7 |
MT or bust!
170
Rep 289
Posts
Drives: 2010 E90 335i M Sport, 6MT
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Alexandria
|
no DPs but thinking about it. not sure if i want to deal with CEL and passing emissions testing.
the PE sounds best in the high rev range IMO.
__________________
2010 E90 335i M Sport, MT - BMW PE; VRSF 7in HD; RB PCV; VRSF CP; Turbosmart KPB BOV; M3 Cowl; VRSF Cerakote DPs; Carly coding; ECS Scoops; Ziza interior LEDs; Fuel-It! Bucketless; Diff lock down brace V2; MHD E60 Map from BQ; Mishimoto OCC; Fuel-It! Ethanol Sensor; Apex 18x9 ARC-8's; StopTech slotted rotors; HPS pads; ECS brake lines; MMP turbos, inlets, outlets; 034 mounts; Kumho PS31s; BimmerLife coils
|
Appreciate
0
|
07-30-2013, 12:00 PM | #8 |
Captain
40
Rep 725
Posts
Drives: 2009 e92 335i
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Santa Barbara CA
|
I want to go with bmw PE and catless DP's im just wondering how loud in person it would be, because I live in cali where they go around like exhaust nazis and ticket you for everything, I want something loud when im on it and decently tamed when im not
__________________
e92 335i l Cobb l VMR V710 l BMW PE l KW V1 l Cusco strut brace l M3 Control Arms l BMS DP's l
|
Appreciate
0
|
07-30-2013, 01:02 PM | #9 |
MT or bust!
170
Rep 289
Posts
Drives: 2010 E90 335i M Sport, 6MT
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Alexandria
|
the PE is pretty tame in the lower range, but can't speak for DPs and PE. at least you can claim that the PE is stock because it comes from the dealer.
__________________
2010 E90 335i M Sport, MT - BMW PE; VRSF 7in HD; RB PCV; VRSF CP; Turbosmart KPB BOV; M3 Cowl; VRSF Cerakote DPs; Carly coding; ECS Scoops; Ziza interior LEDs; Fuel-It! Bucketless; Diff lock down brace V2; MHD E60 Map from BQ; Mishimoto OCC; Fuel-It! Ethanol Sensor; Apex 18x9 ARC-8's; StopTech slotted rotors; HPS pads; ECS brake lines; MMP turbos, inlets, outlets; 034 mounts; Kumho PS31s; BimmerLife coils
|
Appreciate
0
|
07-30-2013, 01:02 PM | #10 |
Slow.
3782
Rep 7,151
Posts
Drives: Single Turbo N54 on Meth!
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Boston, MA
|
Boost activated cut out?
|
Appreciate
0
|
07-30-2013, 01:19 PM | #11 |
NeedsMoarBoost
42
Rep 528
Posts |
just got the PE and with catless downpipes before it warms up there is very obvious rasp... e46 m3esk...
once warm it gets a little less raspy , some may love it, but some will hate it... I had the rennart exhaust on just before and it didnt have any rasp but stunk like ish with no secondary cats... the PE secondary cats eliminated that completely... at idle revving it sounds incredible though, and the popping is very nice.. overall i like it a lot but wish it didnt get raspy up top... im not sure resonators would fit with the cats in place, ill have to take measurements... that should make it perfect if i could add 12 inch vibrant res inline
__________________
08 135i 6m - 12.1@120.2 2.0 60ft - JB4/Meth - SOLD
09 335i e92 Mtech - RB FBO |
Appreciate
0
|
07-30-2013, 01:27 PM | #12 | |
MT or bust!
170
Rep 289
Posts
Drives: 2010 E90 335i M Sport, 6MT
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Alexandria
|
Quote:
__________________
2010 E90 335i M Sport, MT - BMW PE; VRSF 7in HD; RB PCV; VRSF CP; Turbosmart KPB BOV; M3 Cowl; VRSF Cerakote DPs; Carly coding; ECS Scoops; Ziza interior LEDs; Fuel-It! Bucketless; Diff lock down brace V2; MHD E60 Map from BQ; Mishimoto OCC; Fuel-It! Ethanol Sensor; Apex 18x9 ARC-8's; StopTech slotted rotors; HPS pads; ECS brake lines; MMP turbos, inlets, outlets; 034 mounts; Kumho PS31s; BimmerLife coils
|
|
Appreciate
0
|
07-30-2013, 03:19 PM | #13 |
Captain
40
Rep 725
Posts
Drives: 2009 e92 335i
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Santa Barbara CA
|
is this possible? that sounds like it would be awesome
__________________
e92 335i l Cobb l VMR V710 l BMW PE l KW V1 l Cusco strut brace l M3 Control Arms l BMS DP's l
|
Appreciate
0
|
07-30-2013, 03:50 PM | #15 |
Slow.
3782
Rep 7,151
Posts
Drives: Single Turbo N54 on Meth!
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Boston, MA
|
|
Appreciate
0
|
07-30-2013, 10:14 PM | #16 | |||
Major General
278
Rep 5,062
Posts
Drives: Black e92 335i
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Brampton, Ontario
|
Quote:
Just use the stock mids with the PE, there's no point in cutting the Vanguard when you can sell it. Quote:
Quote:
I added Vibrant resonators into my mids to deal with the nasty rasp and I was able to keep my factory secondaries in place. My car will be on a lift tommorow and if you want I can snap pics of the placement and email you them, just shoot me a PM if you'd like to see them.
__________________
JB4 / OSS Angel Eyes / Downpipes / F1-Racewerks FMIC / Custom Meth Kit / BMS DCI / ER Chargepipe / HKS BOV / BMS Meth Elbow / BMW Performance Exhaust / Carbon Fiber Inlay Quad Tips / 19" Miro 111 / Front Aero Lip / M3 Sides / VRS CSL Trunk / Mtech Rear / DD CF Quad Finned Diffuser / LCI Tails / BBK / Smoked Reflectors / F1 Euphoria LED Interior / License LED's / GT 5000k Corners / 5000k HID Fogs / Air Scoops / LED Turn Signals / FK Silverline Coilovers / HPA endlinks / Vibrant Resonators / Osram CBI 5000k D1S
|
|||
Appreciate
0
|
07-30-2013, 10:59 PM | #17 |
Instagram: @Marcadelic
243
Rep 2,697
Posts |
vanguard with catless dp's is horrible, the rasp is worse than a muffler delete
pe sounds better either way
__________________
| New: 2018 F80 M3 | Old: 335i / 335is | Instagram: Marcadelic | |
Appreciate
0
|
07-31-2013, 12:54 AM | #18 |
Banned
13
Rep 156
Posts
Drives: '07 E90 335, '04 R32
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Austin, TX
|
It's amazing. PE and Catless.
|
Appreciate
0
|
07-31-2013, 09:58 AM | #19 |
Captain
234
Rep 990
Posts |
Thank you, guys. Vanguard is in no way horrible, it looks awesome and sounds great but not loud and throaty enough for my liking. I am looking to swap it for PE if anybody is interested
|
Appreciate
0
|
07-31-2013, 01:28 PM | #20 |
Banned
13
Rep 156
Posts
Drives: '07 E90 335, '04 R32
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Austin, TX
|
Nothing at the moment, I need to get some. Its very nice, good sound but nothing too loud. Doesn't piss off the neighbors and the wife approves. I have not heard someone drive the car but all the input I have gotten so far is all positive.
My last car was an R32 which arguably has one of the better OEM exhaust notes. I get as many compliments on the PE/Catless setup as the R. Now rip 1, 2, 3 with something to bounce the sound off with the windows down and you REALLY hear it |
Appreciate
0
|
08-01-2013, 04:08 PM | #21 |
Major General
194
Rep 6,136
Posts |
OP, since you have an E90 your OEM exhaust has a resonator, while E92's do not. When you buy the E90 PE it comes with a small x pipe section that replaces the resonator, in order to keep the sound consistent with the E92's (also costs more because of this.) What I would reccomend you doing is ordering the E92 PE so you can keep this OEM resonator, save some money, and keep the rasp down when you add CDP's. I've heard this setup in person and it sounds just like that video above, but without the rasp.
|
Appreciate
0
|
08-01-2013, 04:37 PM | #22 |
Major General
278
Rep 5,062
Posts
Drives: Black e92 335i
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Brampton, Ontario
|
You need to add resonators with the catless PE, you get all the sound without the rasp.
I haven't heard the method mentioned above with the OE resonators, but it sounds like a decent plan as well if you don't want to weld in the vibrant resonators.
__________________
JB4 / OSS Angel Eyes / Downpipes / F1-Racewerks FMIC / Custom Meth Kit / BMS DCI / ER Chargepipe / HKS BOV / BMS Meth Elbow / BMW Performance Exhaust / Carbon Fiber Inlay Quad Tips / 19" Miro 111 / Front Aero Lip / M3 Sides / VRS CSL Trunk / Mtech Rear / DD CF Quad Finned Diffuser / LCI Tails / BBK / Smoked Reflectors / F1 Euphoria LED Interior / License LED's / GT 5000k Corners / 5000k HID Fogs / Air Scoops / LED Turn Signals / FK Silverline Coilovers / HPA endlinks / Vibrant Resonators / Osram CBI 5000k D1S
|
Appreciate
0
|
Bookmarks |
|
|