need more power w/out voiding my warranty

odalis12 · 12-21-2010, 07:45 PM

I have an o7 335xi and just bought BMW Extended Warranty good till (05/2014 or 100k miles). If I install a split second tuner will it void my warranty? those anyone have any other suggestion? Plug N Play will be best.
Thank You

D.B.S · 12-21-2010, 08:00 PM

EVERY mod will void one or another part of your warranty if the dealership finds any proof of it. Any codes that are thrown in the ECU that are tune related will void one part of your warranty. As the saying goes, you pay to play. You run a risk no matter what you get, unless it's BMW approved, or you want to pay the prices DINAN charges. If you go DINAN, you must follow their warranty rules or else you will have no warranty as well.. There is no safe way to tune and avoid voiding warranty, do everything at your own risk

odalis12 · 12-21-2010, 08:14 PM

Those plug and play be decteded by bmw if I take out before I bring it in?

mithiral67 · 12-21-2010, 08:25 PM

If you take the tunes out before taking them out, they could only detect them by physcially seeing evidence you had a tune or seeing codes in the ecu. If you take precautions these risks are limited.

odalis12 · 12-21-2010, 08:30 PM

You mention jb+sstt and it clears the code. Please more info and were to get it?Thank You for the help.

NiVeDh · 12-21-2010, 08:37 PM

Start here: http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=374508

mithiral67 · 12-21-2010, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by odalis12

You mention jb+sstt and it clears the code. Please more info and were to get it?Thank You for the help.

no, you would need to get a jb+ or a sstt AND a code clearing tool.

Penn999 · 12-21-2010, 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by odalis12

You mention jb+sstt and it clears the code. Please more info and were to get it?Thank You for the help.

Get the procede, save your time doing the research, its the best. No codes, you will thank me after you get it. Good luck and congrats on the purchase. Do the research about it when its in the mail. lol

Mike@N54Tuning.com · 12-21-2010, 09:08 PM

The JB+/BT combo is the best way to go for your 2007. Quick install/removal and the ability to read/delete any hidden codes.

Mike

gerardm · 12-21-2010, 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Penn999

Get the procede, save your time doing the research, its the best. No codes, you will thank me after you get it. Good luck and congrats on the purchase. Do the research about it when its in the mail. lol

rolling18 · 12-21-2010, 09:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Penn999

Get the procede, save your time doing the research, its the best. No codes, you will thank me after you get it. Good luck and congrats on the purchase. Do the research about it when its in the mail. lol

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike@N54Tuning.com

The JB+/BT combo is the best way to go for your 2007. Quick install/removal and the ability to read/delete any hidden codes.

Mike

I NEVER saw THIS coming....

Penn999 · 12-21-2010, 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by rolling18

I NEVER saw THIS coming....

well when a new guy comes in, at least once a week, the same thing gets asked. I am honestly tired of people just saying

. Which I have never done, because I think its kind of a dick move. Obviously anyone can search, but why would someone join a forum to search? He can easily ask and he got an easy answer.

rolling18 · 12-21-2010, 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Penn999

well when a new guy comes in, at least once a week, the same thing gets asked. I am honestly tired of people just saying

. Which I have never done, because I think its kind of a dick move. Obviously anyone can search, but why would someone join a forum to search? He can easily ask and he got an easy answer.

I agree i have not told anyone to use "search" either...

However my comment was not anything about a "search"

I was referring to the Proceed Vs. JB3 back and forth .. my tune's better than yours. whaaa whaaa whaaa...

where they essentially do the same thing in different ways.. with similar gains.

odalis12 · 12-21-2010, 09:43 PM

.To all that help, THANK YOU. Procede it is.

rolling18 · 12-21-2010, 09:45 PM

LOL I LOVE mine.. haven't tried the JB3 yet tho..
goes GREAT with my LSD!

stressdoc · 12-21-2010, 09:51 PM

The simplest, cheapest and easiest way is to buy a used JB+, leave it at 50% or less.

Penn999 · 12-21-2010, 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by rolling18

LOL I LOVE mine.. haven't tried the JB3 yet tho..
goes GREAT with my LSD!

I did have the jb3 before I switched.

D.B.S · 12-22-2010, 06:43 AM

I think the OP should try both tunes... I was hardcore Procede when i have my N54 and I still am, but I have partied in the other camp, BMS/JB3 N55 tune and for the product that is put out, it does a damn good job. Whether or not if it's safe, or approved, or what have you, it does the job it's suppose to do.

People on both sides of the fence will say this tune is better, and that tune is better. Yes the Procede has built in code clearing, autotuning and other great features and I appreciated these feature when I had the Procede in my 335, but now I have a BT tool along with my JB3 N55 tune, and yes granted I had to buy an extra part to do diagnostic and code clearing on my X5, it's more than made up for it's price. The one thing the BT tool can do that the procede can't is clear codes... I know many will say, "oh but before you remove the procede it will remove all your codes." True as that may be, can you read codes with the Procede after it's removed? NO..

OP, try both tunes, see how they both perform, judge for yourself. Then return the one that doesn't do it for you. I suggest investing in a BT tool regardless of which tune you buy.

Bme30 · 12-22-2010, 08:27 AM

or just buy a faster car......

Zasquatch · 12-22-2010, 08:47 AM

I love my PROcede. I'm sure the BMS options work great too, but for me the PROcede seemed like a better fit. I have the install/uninstall down to under 15 minutes, so it's really not that big of a deal when dealer time comes. Whatever option you choose is up to you, but IMO a piggyback is the way to go if you want easy, quickly reversable power.

Black Gold · 12-22-2010, 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Bme30

or just buy a faster car......

I'm convinced that a person could have a 911 turbo and at some point someone would make the above comment.

On the street, it's hard to exploit the 335 in stock form, much less with q tune.

Penn999 · 12-22-2010, 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by KennyPowers

I'm convinced that a person could have a 911 turbo and at some point someone would make the above comment.

On the street, it's hard to exploit the 335 in stock form, much less with q tune.

I already beat an 01 911 turbo on a 60-130ish roll. They are that tight unless its 2005 and up(stock). Any modded 911 turbo is gonna be sick, but after I get my upgraded turbos, I would run just about anything. A stage 3 335i with upgraded twins should run mid 11's.

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odalis12 You only have one shot at life, ENJOY!!! 2 Rep 47 Posts Drives: 2008 335xi space grey Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: nh iTrader: (0)	need more power w/out voiding my warranty I have an o7 335xi and just bought BMW Extended Warranty good till (05/2014 or 100k miles). If I install a split second tuner will it void my warranty? those anyone have any other suggestion? Plug N Play will be best. Thank You __________________ Current= 2008 335xi/ Sport package/ Navigation /rear sensor, 50% rear tints,JB4 map 5,dual core filter,18" Champiro snow tires,Conti summer run flat, led angel eyes bulb Winter = 2001 Audi a4 Quattro 2.8 retired=2007 335xi Monaco blue
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D.B.S Lieutenant Colonel 30 Rep 1,748 Posts Drives: '11 X5 35i / '13 S5 Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Deployed to Kuwait iTrader: (2)	EVERY mod will void one or another part of your warranty if the dealership finds any proof of it. Any codes that are thrown in the ECU that are tune related will void one part of your warranty. As the saying goes, you pay to play. You run a risk no matter what you get, unless it's BMW approved, or you want to pay the prices DINAN charges. If you go DINAN, you must follow their warranty rules or else you will have no warranty as well.. There is no safe way to tune and avoid voiding warranty, do everything at your own risk __________________ BMW X5 35i: Boopie Exhaust & Intercooler, K&N Drop in Filter, JB3 (3+ psi) 2013 Dodge Challenger R/T: CAI, Catch Can, Custom Exhaust, Headers, 87MM Throttle Body, Diablo Custom 93 OCT Tune
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odalis12 You only have one shot at life, ENJOY!!! 2 Rep 47 Posts Drives: 2008 335xi space grey Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: nh iTrader: (0)	Those plug and play be decteded by bmw if I take out before I bring it in? __________________ Current= 2008 335xi/ Sport package/ Navigation /rear sensor, 50% rear tints,JB4 map 5,dual core filter,18" Champiro snow tires,Conti summer run flat, led angel eyes bulb Winter = 2001 Audi a4 Quattro 2.8 retired=2007 335xi Monaco blue
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mithiral67 That guy 117 Rep 5,740 Posts Drives: 2015 Cayman GTS Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Chicago Burbs iTrader: (4) Garage List 2015 Porsche Cayman ... [0.00]	If you take the tunes out before taking them out, they could only detect them by physcially seeing evidence you had a tune or seeing codes in the ecu. If you take precautions these risks are limited. __________________ 2015 - Cayman GTS - Stock 2011 - 335is e92 - Cobb PTF E40/Rob - Beck/AR/Helix (458 rwtq and 479 rwhp) - Retired 2007 - 911 Turbo - EP1/AMS (617 awtq and 500 awhp) - Retired 2008 - 335i e92 - Cobb/AR/Helix/OSS (384 rwtq and 356 rwhp) - Retired
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odalis12 You only have one shot at life, ENJOY!!! 2 Rep 47 Posts Drives: 2008 335xi space grey Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: nh iTrader: (0)	You mention jb+sstt and it clears the code. Please more info and were to get it?Thank You for the help. __________________ Current= 2008 335xi/ Sport package/ Navigation /rear sensor, 50% rear tints,JB4 map 5,dual core filter,18" Champiro snow tires,Conti summer run flat, led angel eyes bulb Winter = 2001 Audi a4 Quattro 2.8 retired=2007 335xi Monaco blue
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Mike@N54Tuning.com Joint Chiefs of Staff 4918 Rep 115,980 Posts Drives: 2007 335i, 2015 M3 Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: N54tuning.com iTrader: (89)	The JB+/BT combo is the best way to go for your 2007. Quick install/removal and the ability to read/delete any hidden codes. Mike
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odalis12 You only have one shot at life, ENJOY!!! 2 Rep 47 Posts Drives: 2008 335xi space grey Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: nh iTrader: (0)	.To all that help, THANK YOU. Procede it is. __________________ Current= 2008 335xi/ Sport package/ Navigation /rear sensor, 50% rear tints,JB4 map 5,dual core filter,18" Champiro snow tires,Conti summer run flat, led angel eyes bulb Winter = 2001 Audi a4 Quattro 2.8 retired=2007 335xi Monaco blue
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rolling18 I AM the 12th. Emom 48 Rep 1,007 Posts Drives: 07 335i SG Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: portland, OR iTrader: (1)	LOL I LOVE mine.. haven't tried the JB3 yet tho.. goes GREAT with my LSD! __________________ *e92, 335i SG/ Coral. 6m, LSD,*
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D.B.S Lieutenant Colonel 30 Rep 1,748 Posts Drives: '11 X5 35i / '13 S5 Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Deployed to Kuwait iTrader: (2)	I think the OP should try both tunes... I was hardcore Procede when i have my N54 and I still am, but I have partied in the other camp, BMS/JB3 N55 tune and for the product that is put out, it does a damn good job. Whether or not if it's safe, or approved, or what have you, it does the job it's suppose to do. People on both sides of the fence will say this tune is better, and that tune is better. Yes the Procede has built in code clearing, autotuning and other great features and I appreciated these feature when I had the Procede in my 335, but now I have a BT tool along with my JB3 N55 tune, and yes granted I had to buy an extra part to do diagnostic and code clearing on my X5, it's more than made up for it's price. The one thing the BT tool can do that the procede can't is clear codes... I know many will say, "oh but before you remove the procede it will remove all your codes." True as that may be, can you read codes with the Procede after it's removed? NO.. OP, try both tunes, see how they both perform, judge for yourself. Then return the one that doesn't do it for you. I suggest investing in a BT tool regardless of which tune you buy. __________________ BMW X5 35i: Boopie Exhaust & Intercooler, K&N Drop in Filter, JB3 (3+ psi) 2013 Dodge Challenger R/T: CAI, Catch Can, Custom Exhaust, Headers, 87MM Throttle Body, Diablo Custom 93 OCT Tune
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Zasquatch Captain 36 Rep 708 Posts Drives: '07 BMW 335i Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: CT iTrader: (15) Garage List 2007 BMW 335i [0.00]	I love my PROcede. I'm sure the BMS options work great too, but for me the PROcede seemed like a better fit. I have the install/uninstall down to under 15 minutes, so it's really not that big of a deal when dealer time comes. Whatever option you choose is up to you, but IMO a piggyback is the way to go if you want easy, quickly reversable power.
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