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      11-15-2005, 05:33 PM   #1
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Extended Lug Nuts

Just put my rims on, however the rears are a 35ET offset. So I went ahead and ordered hub-centric 10mm spacers. Are extended lug nuts required? I didn't use extended lug nuts on my S14 240SX when I used spacers, and it worked fine. But comparing a Nissan to a BMW is like apples and oranges.

If I do need them, I already called my dealer, but they don't sell extended lug nuts. No luck on Ebay either. Anyone know where I can grab a set?
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5mm spacers, no. 10mm, I would switch from wheel bolts to wheel studs.

Turner sells them-

http://www.turnermotorsport.com/html...UCT_ID=TWH9950
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      11-15-2005, 10:10 PM   #3
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Sigh...more money out the pocket. Thanks!
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      11-16-2005, 05:50 PM   #4
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They sit in front of a fan and throw $100 bills into the wind.
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If you haven't all ready ordered your 10mm spacers check out the ones that Rogue Engeering sells. They come with extend length lug bolts and I you will like their design.
After a lot of research I found that it is best to stay with the OEM type lug bolt so I made up a couple of wheel hangers out of 100mm bolts to help install the rim with the spacers in place.
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If you haven't all ready ordered your 10mm spacers check out the ones that Rogue Engeering sells.
Ben makes a quality product...

But I disagree with you on the lugs v. studs comment. I was Turner's first big brake customer and we were snapping lugs left and right once the kit was installed. Will Turner came up with the idea of studs and they've been selling them ever since.

The metal used in a stud tends to be of a far higher quality then the metal used in a lug for the simple reason that the studs are simply threaded bits of high quality, forged metal stock. Wheel lugs are usually of a lesser quality simply because there are so many lug designs and each one requires tooling. To simplify manufacturing, materials which are easier to work with are utilized.

On a street care and even most race cars, this doesn't matter but studs are the choice for high performance applications. Bar none.

Studs also make wheel changes a whole hell of a lot easier...
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Zen is the man...thanks for all the info! I'll let you know where I end up...in a couple weeks.
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Ben makes a quality product...

But I disagree with you on the lugs v. studs comment. I was Turner's first big brake customer and we were snapping lugs left and right once the kit was installed. Will Turner came up with the idea of studs and they've been selling them ever since.

The metal used in a stud tends to be of a far higher quality then the metal used in a lug for the simple reason that the studs are simply threaded bits of high quality, forged metal stock. Wheel lugs are usually of a lesser quality simply because there are so many lug designs and each one requires tooling. To simplify manufacturing, materials which are easier to work with are utilized.

On a street care and even most race cars, this doesn't matter but studs are the choice for high performance applications. Bar none.

Studs also make wheel changes a whole hell of a lot easier...

Studs are generally used in high performance braking/accelerating situations, and its a pretty bad idea to recommend studs to people that are just using their stock cars with wheels. Unfortunately, some juristictions (whether its a state or a province) have laws against the thread on lugs being exposed, and could possibly remove your vehicle off the road by law.

I know several guys with high powered hondas that have studs like that on the front of their vehicles for the purpose of quick change overs with slicks, and have had their cars pulled off the road for that very reason.
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      11-17-2005, 12:33 AM   #9
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and its a pretty bad idea to recommend studs to people that are just using their stock cars with wheels
I am well aware of the concept of road worthyness inspections. xs***** lives in California, where such issues are not of any concern. I know this becaue I ran wheel studs on my vehicles for years.

Running 10mm wheel spacers is an intrinsically hairy proposition and it is a very good idea to convert lugs to studs. Overkill? Perhaps, but still a good idea none the less.

If xs***** was living in a socialist country where the citizenry bent over backwards to allow some burocrat to climb over their vehicle and ding them on using technically superior solutions who's only failing was a lack of approval on the part of Big Brother... I would have told him to move.
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after reading all your posts, im lost.....anyways here was my experience. i used a 20 mm spacer for the rear, so i have to get a 50mm bolt. why 50mm?? its recommend to have at least 5-6 turn on the bolt. anything further is gonna touch something behind the rotor. is it safe? i did a bmw run in the malibu canyon with it a couple months ago with no problem.
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      11-17-2005, 10:30 AM   #11
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this may be a dumb question, but if i swap out my 162's for winter wheels, do i need new bolts? the new wheels would be a 38mm offset
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